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Re: Insecurity in Finnish parlament (computers)
From: "Markus Jansson" <markus.jansson () hushmail com>
Date: Sat, 25 Dec 2004 07:53:51 -0800
-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 (SORRY FOR SENDING THIS MESSAGE TWICE, I THOUGHT IT WAS BETTER RETAIN THE ORIGINAL SUBJECT LINE...Im not sure was I able to cancel the previous message) On Thu, 23 Dec 2004 02:55:00 -0800 =?iso-8859- 1?Q?Mustaj=E4rvi_Olli?= <olli.mustajarvi () eduskunta fi> wrote:
Tietoturva-asiantuntijana itseään pitävän
Olli sayes that I think Im a computer security expert, however, that must be hes own imagination, since I have never claimed to but a "computer security expert".
meille tuntemattoman Markus Janssonin
Now he sayes that they dont really even know me. Thats funny. After the summer that I sent them the email about their insecurity, they SHOULD HAVE started to learn about me.
väitteitä olemme joutuneet eduskunnassa kuulemaan eri lähteistä jo viime kesästä lähtien.
Now he claims that they have had to listen my claims since the last summer. He is clearly lying since I have only posted ONE email to them in the summer. Only few weeks ago I posted to some reporters so that something would happen and they would make a case about it.
Koska en halua lähteä käsittelemään eduskunnan salassa pidettäviä tietoturvallisuuteen liittyviä
asioita
julkisella keskustelupalstalla enkä erityisesti myöskään Janssonin kanssa, totean vain väitteiden olevan paikkansa pitämättömiä.
Now he sayes he doesnt want to tell issues related to information security of our parlament in public, he doesnt comment. However, as you can see, he actually DOES comment about the issue, claiming Im wrong. BTW. Olli, why didnt you bother answering me in the summer when I first told your staff about the insecurity? Simple:"Thanks from your email, we have noted it but we dont give out any comments" would have saved us both from a lot.
Asian jatkokäsittely käydään toisaalla.
He sayes that this issue will be dealt elsewhere. I guess he means court.
Mr. Jansson has expressed his false claims about the ICT security issues of the Finnish Parliament. Mr. Jansson has expressed his
lies
now so many times that we will bring a charge against him in court.
Oh really? Last time I looked, lying wasnt illegal in Finland. And if Im lying, then I really dont know a drek about your computer security do I...and that means that I could NOT give out any secret information or commit "hacking" either right? So, WHAT are you pressing charges against me really, could you care to explain that atleast? I havent heard anything from our police or judges either, and btw. they are the ones who decide if charges are pressed or not. But let me say this: If I findout that its criminal in Finland to INFORM about security holes and give a full-disclosure about them when they arent fixed in months, go ahead, press charges. I'll move to live somewhere else than in this facist state of ours where you cant even discuss about security holes without being sent to prison etc.
We like to underline that Mr. Jansson's claims are false and incomprehensibly stupid.
So your are pressing charges against me of making stupid claims? Yeah, right. Go ahead. BTW. WHEN are you going to fix those issues? You are not fooling me when you say they are OK, and I bet you arent fooling the rest of the list here either. I hope you do it soon, it wouldnt look very nice regarding your security staff if someone would take advantage of these security holes I have pointed out just because you dont bother listening... Markus Jansson Turku http://www.markusjansson.net -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Note: This signature can be verified at https://www.hushtools.com/verify Version: Hush 2.4 wkYEARECAAYFAkHNje8ACgkQp4wnv3Na2tqqZwCfQRpVEzw9lbK1ebBRtOAR6Ya2ob4A nje1I71AI7wTjXhHMaaosjcAKAKB =Jbfl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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