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Re: AW: Clever crooks can foil wiretaps, security flawin tap technology
From: Steve Kudlak <chromazine () sbcglobal net>
Date: Thu, 01 Dec 2005 06:14:13 -0800
Roland Ruf wrote:
Oh I dunno, the other thing is that local law enforcement might be better and worse off. Sometimes they go and get stuff from Radio Shack other times they just accept stuff from the FBI or some other agency and assume it works. They often get hand me downs. The FBI is in real trouble with technology. I mean if you think of the hacker heros, they were often caught by sloppiness which cooler and more xperienced folks might get around. This is why law enforcement uses a lot of bluster and tells folks they have done things when they haven't. They feel the guilty will confess. Truly irritating if you haven't been doing anything.Cool stuff.. *lol* I do not think, that the FBI is still using this old analogue recorders in Total recording mode connected to the analogue extensions... That may have worked 10 or 15 years ago depending on many things like the connection type, the way the recorder detects the signal, etc, but I assume only some single manufactures could have that problem... If you record extension site on analogue extensions and you use the line sense as recording trigger (which is default on many recorders), that thing with the CTONE would not have worked... And we do not talk about the digital lines, where the recording trigger is normally absolutely independent from the audio of that call. Regards Roland coderman wrote,heheheh http://seattlepi.nwsource.com/national/250215_wiretap30.html//snipThe tone, also known as a C-tone, sounds like a low buzzing and is "slightly annoying,"Obtaining a snooping order based on the fact that this C-tone was detected should be easy. Did you know that escaped prisoners in bright orange outfits are difficult to spot in public?&:-) --Disclaimer: by reading this disclaimer, you agree not to read it again._______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
Trying to say the FBI doesn't have a technology problem is kind of a tad questionable. They do. The main problem is they are still run by the old guy cxriminal division. You'd be surprised at what priomative equipment they use sometimes. So if one wanted to foil them then yes you'd try stuff and hope it would work. Or you'd use a buy and go cell phone with no real name. It's possible to get those and if you have money to burn it might be a good thing. Of course if you are an old style "I don't want a surviellence state no matter how safe the panoptiocn supposedlyt makes me" might try all these things out of spite evedn when doing nothing wrong.
Have Fun, Sends SteveP.S. I dunno want equipment is used in Europe and South Africa but sometimes the enfocement agencies tend to have better. If you live in the US you get used to pretty dumb policemen and enforcement authorities who catch dumb criminals and blunder into the lives of innocent citizen and make a mess, and want to say "Oh Opps! Our job is hard you got to understand..." and get out of any reprecussions.
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- Re: Clever crooks can foil wiretaps, security flaw in tap technology Andrew McGill (Dec 01)
- AW: Clever crooks can foil wiretaps, security flawin tap technology Roland Ruf (Dec 01)
- Re: AW: Clever crooks can foil wiretaps, security flawin tap technology Steve Kudlak (Dec 01)
- AW: Clever crooks can foil wiretaps, security flawin tap technology Roland Ruf (Dec 01)