RE: Amazon Phishing Scam - Tech Details

["DAN MORRILL" <dan_20407 () msn com>]

Todd,

Good point, well made. Again the idea that I had was to share the 
information, and yes I agree with you that manually blocking things would be 
a pain in the butt, no issues there. If it would be more suitable to post to 
some other list I am ok with that too.

I know that people are being touchy since the n3td3v/joe average thing has 
been going on for what seems like forever, and annoying the population of FD 
is not my intention, I have posted to this list for years, and in general 
find the inforamation interesting and in many cases amusing. I am more than 
happy to conceide the groups desire not to have phishing information posted 
unless it is new or somehow novel reflecting a new trend or technique.

As we are all security folks, security wanna be's, or just interested 
bystanders, I think many of us have good intentions (which I had this 
morning). If it is not suitable, that is cool, I'll wait until I have 
something technical and interesting/new to post. Unfortunately most of my 
work is done on the business side of the house working with management 
setting course direction and technology buys lately, and I rarely get to 
deal with new things unless it is security certification of software and web 
systems, which is cool in its own way, but usually not content for FD.

Cheers folks, no worries and no issues on my part.

Regards, Dan



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> From: "Todd Towles" <toddtowles () brookshires com>
> To: "DAN MORRILL" 
> <dan_20407 () msn com>,<sgmasood () yahoo com>,<full-disclosure () lists grok org uk>
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> Dan wrote:
> > Oh, I don't know, maybe someone might want to block the IP
> > addres or shun them, maybe someone might want to put it in
> > their exchange server as a known bad IP, maybe someone might
> > want to black hole them at some point, just little things
> > like that, and that is why I posted this to this list.
> >
> > Just a thought.
> > r/d
>
> Dan, you have a very valid idea and it works, but it will only work for
> the short temp. Static blocking of phishing sites doesn't work too well
> in the long run - but works well for the time the site is up. You put
> this one address into your block list to protect your users but what
> about the 10 other address you haven't put in there?
>
> Trying to run a manually updated content/security filtering system will
> crazy you insane in no time. Believe me ;)
>
> -Todd

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