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[OT] Regarding Mr. Gilmore


From: "J.A. Terranson" <measl () mfn org>
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:42:19 -0600 (CST)


Since the list appears to have gone on yet another holiday, I proffer
below a reply to the many schizophrenic rants recently posted by our
Resident Fascist and Associate Professor of Modern Bullshit, Paul Schmeil.

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
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'The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments
it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest
limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of
the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext
whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the
brink of destruction.'

St. George Tucker

---------- Forwarded message ----------
Date: Thu, 29 Dec 2005 21:36:59 -0600 (CST)
From: J.A. Terranson <measl () mfn org>
Reply-To: Antisocial <antisocial () mfn org>
To: Antisocial <antisocial () mfn org>
Subject: Re: [Antisocial] [dave () farber net: [IP] Fear destroys what Bin
    Laden could not] (fwd)


On Thu, 29 Dec 2005, bkfsec shared the Epiphany, thusly:

The problem is the people who don't want to work things out and who
simply want to obstruct because they can.  Obstructionism isn't
worthless, unless it's meaningless.

I make one exception to all of this: neo-conservatism.  You will hear me
talk about the neo-conservative movement in relative absolutes.  The
only reason for this is because the neo-con movement is a new movement
that has a well-codified and concise set of beliefs.  Most people, I
dare say, who identify themselves as neo-conservative, aren't at all.

True conservatives should be appalled at the rise of neo-conservatism.
They're hijacking your ideology and replacing it with Empirialism and
Fascism.  The openly stated goals of the neo-con movement are clearly,
in the most direct sense of the term, opposed to the freedom of and
governing by the people.  I am not exaggerating.  These are people who
believe such things as government interference on behalf of corporations
is a good thing.  The leaders of the neo-con movement believe in strict
political regimentation in society.  In some neo-con papers, removing
citizenship from anyone who isn't a democrat or a republican is
proposed.  The neo-con movement is a rebirth of the "might makes right"
ideologies of yesteryear.  Neo-conservatism is the belief that the
ability to exploit is the justification for exploitation - after all the
exploited gains as well.

There is no doubt in my mind that true conservatives should not waste
their time defending neo-conservatism.  All one has to do is read the
position papers of those who are the ideological grandfathers of the
movement.  The anti-democracy aspects of the ideology are blatantly
presented.  Unlike most other ideologies, the founders of
neo-conservatism didn't base their beliefs off of a heady attempt to
make the world a better place.  The sole intent of the neo-conservative
belief system is the empowerment of its creators.  The belief system
itself is tainted by design.

This is one of the most cogent, well reasoned political assessments I have
ever seen regarding "modern" Neo-conservative thought.

Thank you.  (BTW: I'm going to forward it to Paul "Shithead" Schmeil ;-)

-- 
Yours,

J.A. Terranson
sysadmin () mfn org
0xBD4A95BF


'The right of self defence is the first law of nature: in most governments
it has been the study of rulers to confine this right within the narrowest
limits possible. Wherever standing armies are kept up, and the right of
the people to keep and bear arms is, under any colour or pretext
whatsoever, prohibited, liberty, if not already annihilated, is on the
brink of destruction.'

St. George Tucker
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