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From: "Stuart Carter" <Stuart.Carter () bbcel co uk>
Date: Thu, 25 Aug 2005 09:19:08 +0100

A good question, Dan, thank you.



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Dan Margolis <dmargoli+lists () af0 net> 25/08/2005 03:41:55 >>>
While I'm at it, I wanted to take a stab at Stuart's comment, too.  
Because I hear more and more of this "Google Watch" nonsense, and I  
think a lot of it ought to be laid to rest. And my main complaint  
with all of it is, people who are worked up about this seem to ignore  
the fact that this is nothing new--how much do you trust your ISP,  
for instance? Why isn't there a AOL-Time-Warner-watch, when this  
conglomerate (until AOL gets spun off) controls the Internet access,  
the TV access, the movies, the magazines, the newspapers, even the  
published books accessed by so many people? With companies like AOL- 
Time-Warner, all your media can literally come from a single source.  
And people are worried about Google storing their e-mail!

My ISP has to comply with European data protection laws.
Google does not.

My ISP does not set "immortal cookies" on my PC.
Google does (... if I allow them, which I do not - Firefox cookie manager is nice!).

I do not use my ISPs email - I use privately hosted email (unlike this which is, obviously, my work email).

My ISP is not trying to build up an ever more complete picture of what I am interested in, so that they can sell me 
more advertising.

While my ISP has logs of what I do, again, they have to store and purge them in accordance with European data 
protection laws.


I should state that I am not one of the "Google watch" brigade - I do not feel the need to wear a tinfoil beanie, 
thankyouverymuch! - but I have concerns that Google, by becoming ever more useful, will actually become a huge threat 
to our privacy. I am, however, somewhat contrarian and very indivudalistic, so I do not buy into either the "the sun 
shines out of Google's.. servers!" or the "Google are EEEEVIL!" schools of thought.


I hope this clarifies my position?


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