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Re: Re: It's not that simple...
From: Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespinola () gmail com>
Date: Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:51:22 -0400
Exactly. Because MS is such a stupid-admin prone OS, MS needs to work harder at making tools like the recent SCW (Security Configuration Wizard) available to all their OS's - not just the newer ones. Even though checklists and security docs these days are numerous for the basics - people aren't looking into them or following them because of all the manual steps involved. Things like the SCW need to be embedded in the OS to make it as idiot proof as possible to apply a secure configuration. I think we'll all agree that lots of idiots maintain Microsoft OS's. It isn't necessarily MS's fault - but it is a culture that they cultivated, so they definitely hold some accountability. On 8/18/05, Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu <Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu> wrote:
On Thu, 18 Aug 2005 10:28:04 EDT, Paul Melson said:Very little pity for those who haven't hardened servers and workstation images this late in the game.The problem is that there's literally a half billion workstation images out there, run by people who think "harden" is what pr0n does do them.... Remember - *most* machines are run by Joe Sixpacks, not trained sysadmins. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.grok.org.uk/full-disclosure-charter.html Hosted and sponsored by Secunia - http://secunia.com/
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- Re: Re: It's not that simple..., (continued)
- Re: Re: It's not that simple... Kurt Seifried (Aug 17)
- Re: Re: It's not that simple... Micheal Espinola Jr (Aug 17)
- Re: Re: It's not that simple... Jason Coombs (Aug 17)
- Re: Re: It's not that simple... yossarian (Aug 17)
- NULL sessions on Windows 2000 systems [Was: Re: Re: It's not that simple...] Jean-Baptiste Marchand (Aug 18)
- Re: NULL sessions on Windows 2000 systems [Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] Re:It's not that simple...] yossarian (Aug 18)
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- Re: Re: It's not that simple... Jason Coombs (Aug 17)
- Re: Re: It's not that simple... Florian Weimer (Aug 17)
- RE: Re: It's not that simple... Paul Melson (Aug 18)
- Re: Re: It's not that simple... Valdis . Kletnieks (Aug 18)
- Re: Re: It's not that simple... Micheal Espinola Jr (Aug 18)
- Re: Re: It's not that simple... Micheal Espinola Jr (Aug 18)