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Re: <Cisco Message> Mike Lynn's controversial CiscoSecurity Presentation
From: Christoph Gruber <list () guru at>
Date: Mon, 1 Aug 2005 12:09:14 +0200
Am Samstag, 30. Juli 2005 17:19 schrieb DAN MORRILL:
Protection right now, the Joy of being a student) the creator of the data has the direct right under Title 17 and the DMCA to determine how the data will be used (hence expiring CDR's and DRM). If data is sent in error that does not limit or otherwise reduce the rights of the data owner, and the data owner can request that the data be removed.
That's what they did.
The data owner can also request assurances that the data has been removed from all parties that they believe have copies of that data.
ROFL!
Cisco in their message has acted according to American law by requesting that all copies of the data that is held in private hands be deleted as they are the acting IP owners along with ISS.
Should I tell, what's US-law is to me? I care more about the dirt under my fingernails.
Cisco is acting as the agent of the IP owner (much like RIAA and MPAA do for artists and movie makers). Their request is quite legal, and at least they were polite about it.
Legal? Where? And after all, how to enforce it?
If anyone wants more data on this subject (which is way off topic for FD), I can provide it separately or as private conversation.
-- Christoph Gruber 2B OR (NOT (2B)) = FF
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