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Re: Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of Sasser worm
From: "Samir Kelekar" <samir () teknotrends com>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 21:09:28 +0530
Excellent point. And it is not just about hackers. There are companies out there which will do some violations, pay the fine, and then do business as usual, if they figure that the profits that they make justifies paying the fine. It just means that our legal system is not good enough. The penalties have to be such that one is deterred from committing a crime. Well... regards, Samir Kelekar Teknotrends Software http://www.teknotrends.com
Does it not strike anyone that there is a disturbing trend in malicious
hackers (yes, yes, I know, they are not hackers if they are malicious, so call em whatever you want) getting hired to security firms, mainly because the "hacker" gets media attention? It is honestly like we are declaring to the world that the best way to get a good paying job in the computer security field is to perform some major attack - and get caught for it - and then after serving a short sentace, start applying for jobs. I know lots of young people, myself included, that could make headlines by performing some act or another of a sensational nature, and all that stops us is our own sense of ethics - but those ethics get harder and harder to hold as we earn a pittance doing your standard boring days work, while some other guy is out there essentially (in my mind) having fun doing some detrimental to society, and then getting hired at a substantial salary, as a reward.
This may sound like a rant, and it probably is, but that makes my point no
less accurate.
Responses anyone? Nick Jacobsen nick () ethicsdesign com -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com on behalf of bb Sent: Mon 9/20/2004 3:32 AM To: Feher Tamas; full-disclosure () lists netsys com Cc: Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author
of Sasser worm
If he has fulfilled all the obligation of his sentence, whats wrong with
him
being allowed to seek gainful employment that plays to his skills? Second chance anyone? Being allowed to learn from his mistakes? ----- Original Message ----- From: "Feher Tamas" <etomcat () freemail hu> To: <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> Sent: Monday, September 20, 2004 10:21 AM Subject: [Full-disclosure] Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of Sasser wormHello, The german IT security company "Securepoint" has hired Sven Jaschan, who wrote and spread the Sasser Internet worm, which caused widespread and costly damages to legions of Windows computers. He will work as a developer for security softwares such as firewalls. This is a scandal! Whether or not you like the 250k USD head-hunting bounty which Microsoft Corp. paid to have Mr. Jaschan nailed, he is still a criminal. Hiring him is a taboo. It is totally unacceptable to picture him as a modern age Robin Hood or freedom fighter. He is a criminal, similar to an arsonist, who sets a house alight and the fire spreads to an entire city. I urge all to boycott the Securepoint and I urge those who suffered losses due to the Sasser worm to sue Securepoint and seek damages. VXing must end and we must send a strong message to teenagers that cracking is not hacking and will not be tolerated. Securepoint website: http://www.securepoint.cc/ Info about Sven Jaschan's hiring: http://www.f-secure.com/weblog#00000296 Sincerely: Tamas Feher from Hungary. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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