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Re: Scandal: IT Security firm hires the author of Sasser worm


From: ktabic <lists () ktabic co uk>
Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2004 16:23:16 +0000

On Mon, 2004-09-20 at 12:18 +0200, adf--at--Code511.com wrote:
On Sep 20, 2004, at 11:21 AM, Feher Tamas wrote:

Hello,

The german IT security company "Securepoint" has hired Sven
Jaschan, who wrote and spread the Sasser Internet worm,
which caused widespread and costly damages to legions of
Windows computers.

what about legions of bad admins and bad coders, isn't it worst and 
more damagable?

So fix that by getting a guy who knows how to write malware, and hope he
does a better job?

He will work as a developer for security softwares such as
firewalls.

This is a scandal! Whether or not you like the 250k USD
head-hunting bounty which Microsoft Corp. paid to have Mr.
Jaschan nailed, he is still a criminal.
Why should he be death sentence for writing virus? Should he no life, 
no work IF he's responsible?

Well, I vaguely recall laws that state that a convicted criminal isn't
allowed to profit from his crime, even after he has served his sentence.
This does, however, sound like he is profiting from his crime.
Think: would he have been given this job if he hadn't had his named
plastered all over the newspapers?

  Hiring him is a taboo. It is totally unacceptable to picture him as 
a modern
age Robin Hood or freedom fighter. He is a criminal, similar
to an arsonist, who sets a house alight and the fire spreads
to an entire city.

ok cool now he's a criminal call the FBI, CCU of Germany and you'll a 2 
cents reward.
Hiring hacker/crackers or what ever security experts isn't new and 
sometimes is part of a marketing plan.

That isn't the point. The points are a) is it ethical, and b) is it
sensible.
And lets face it, marketing is the bane of IT in the first place, so
this just compunds it even more.
He has already proven he is capable and willing of breaking the law. He
probably can again.
If you have a criminal past, you aren't allowed to become a policeman.
More importantly, is it wise of Securepoint to hire someone who is
guilty of cybercrimes when their business is protecting people from
people like him.
Setting a thief to catch a thief is liable to just have your stuff
stolen by a different thief. And ability in one field doesn't transform
into ability in it's opposite.

I urge all to boycott the Securepoint and I urge those who
suffered losses due to the Sasser worm to sue Securepoint
and seek damages. VXing must end and we must send a strong
message to teenagers that cracking is not hacking and will
not be tolerated.
Sue the CIO who force companies to use 1 type of OS for user's 
workstation, sue the admin for not patching IOS, OS, softwares.
Oh wait... cracking ?? What's the point sasser?

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