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Re: The Hacker's Manifesto Reloaded
From: James Tucker <jftucker () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 3 Sep 2004 14:25:32 +0100
A short piece of food for thought for all you hackers out there. This is not an attack on your livelihood this is merely a point for your consideration. It (the manifesto) does not explain why this information is relevant for me to read. or maybe I am unable to understand the part that does, if so please teach this willing student. Your manifesto seems largely similar to those written by many others. The attacks upon the security industry (which is required, whether the techs are good or not is a different matter) are largely unqualified. Please do not forget that businesses are formed due to the needs of other businesses or people and they serve others, this leads in a chain like manner back to the industries you would choose not to attack. Tell me how would you feel if you successfully stole enough money that you crashed an economy and power generation also stopped. An unreal scenario I know, but tone this back down to reality, and you realise that the things you are using are also directly related to the things you are trashing. In essence you are destroying your own world. It is business that makes computers, it is power that feeds the factories, it is these peoples money that pays the employees. The employees need health insurance if they want to survive, hospitals need their equipment, which in turn requires design, logistics for movement of physical items. The logistics companies need ISP's for their communications infrastructure, and banks to manage their money. The trail goes on. Do you not realise that many of the places you attack are merely part of the chain of business which supports the world that you love? A final point to further this, how far are you willing to go in causing people inconvenience? Every day people commit suicide due to stress caused to them in their business lives. Shutting down communications media, or any other business could have this effect (or at least contribute). Even furthermore there are situations where your actions may more directly affect the safety of individuals. Continuing to do so may then be compared to attempted murder. Still think you have any moral high ground? Finally the word manifesto means "a declaration of intent". I was unable to see any intended actions stated. In fact what I read more resembled a boast of money gained by actions already performed, and insult of lesser hackers and security professionals. For someone who should have a clear understanding of the need for accurate understanding of language (most important when the language is dealt with on a purely logical and explicit basis as with a computer system) you seem to not care so much about the accuracy of your written language. --- I am a student of security and this is my manifesto. I intend to have any hacker who tries to attack me for trying to provide an explanation of my point of view to them, thrown into jail for the longest sentence available under the laws of the country in which they committed their crime. This is my statement of intent, my manifesto, and it needs no end user license agreement or copyright. It is not unreasonable, it is not a declaration of war, it is a statement accompanying a point for discussion, nothing more. What do you think? On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 05:45:19 -0700 (PDT), the entrepreneur <da_entrepreneur () yahoo com> wrote:
it says everything. --- James Tucker <jftucker () gmail com> wrote:why? On Fri, 3 Sep 2004 03:31:32 -0700 (PDT), the entrepreneur <da_entrepreneur () yahoo com> wrote:The following was written shortly after my placement... \/\The Conscience of aHacker -Redux /\/ (c)CopyRightSuppaDuppaSecuritySolutions. *where do u wanna peetoday*by +++TheEntrepreneur+++Written on September 3, 2004. Another one got bought today, it's all over theWallStreet. "Teenager Floated A Big Secuirty Company","Hacker Paid After Ethical Hacking Of A Bank..." Damn kids. They're all money whores. But did you, in your C Grade Economics Degree and l4am3 technobrain, ever take a look behind theeyes ofthis professional hacker? Did you ever wonderwhatmade him whored, what forces lured him, what mayhavesold him? I am a professional hacker, look at mybankaccount... Mine is a world that begins with money... I'mricherthan most of the other kids, this crap they buy issodarn cheap... Damn underachiever. They're all moneywhores.I'm a junior security consultant. I've listenedtosenior security professionals about how to be agoodhacker. I spit at it. "No, Mr.NiceGuy-CISSP CISA CEH, I didn't show my 0day. I sold it..." Damn kid. Probably leeched it. They'reallmoney whores. I made a discovery today. I found a Venture Capitalist. Wait a second, this is cool. It does what I want it to. If it makes a mistake, he doesnt notice because,he islame. He doesn't understand a crap of security,but heis blinded by that greenish tinge of money. He says it's therealthing, biotech was a fluke. I do BlaBlaBla and heiscashing in on it. Damn kid. All he does is techno babble. They're all money whores. And then it happened... a door opened to aworld...rushing through the phone line like money throughATMwires, an electronic account transfer is done, a refugefromthe day-to-day incompetencies is sought... I soldthecode. "This is it... this is where I belong..." I can buy everyone here... even if I've never met them, never talked to them, may never hear fromthemagain... I can buy you all... Damn professional hacker. Tying up theserveragain with his DDos bots. They're all moneywhores...You bet your ESOPs we're all alike... we've been spoon-fed security certifications when we hungeredforreal stuff ... the bits of meat that you gave was old seminar crap, for which you charged $500. We've been dominated by, or taken over by these so called security gurus. The few that had somethingtoteach found us willing pupils, but those poor few are like moneyintheir accounts. This is our world now... the world of the securityandhoopla, the beauty of the moolah. We make use ofaservice already existing without licensing for what couldbedirt-cheap if it wasn't run by profiteeringgluttons,and you call us money whores. We sell what youalreadysold.. and you call us money whores. Yes, I am a professional hacker. My crime is thatofgreed. My crime is that of cashing in on this security hype. My crime is that of outsourcing you, somethingthatyou will never re-pay me for. I am a professional hacker, and this is my manifesto*[(c) Please read EULA for furtherdetails].You may stop this individual, but you can't stop us all ... after all, we're all are money whores. +++TheEntrepreneur+++_______________________________ Do you Yahoo!? Win 1 of 4,000 free domain names from Yahoo! Enternow.http://promotions.yahoo.com/goldrush _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter:http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html__________________________________ Do you Yahoo!? New and Improved Yahoo! Mail - Send 10MB messages! http://promotions.yahoo.com/new_mail
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