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Re: [Full-Disclosure] RE: [Full-Disclosure]Open the doors to hell hire a hicker Full-disclosure Posts
From: Kevin <KKadow () gmail com>
Date: Mon, 18 Oct 2004 23:52:28 -0500
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 19:25:16 -0400, Micheal Espinola Jr <michealespinola () gmail com> wrote:
Yea, but the l0pht was never an exploit group. They were the most true hackers I have ever personally known. But it should also be considered that way back then, the youngest member was in his teens, while the rest were significantly older than him. Now, that youngest member (Kingpin) should be about 30 y/o. Their maturity and _responsibility_ to their passions has always kept them a cut above in the professional game.
What I was trying to say is that there are other less visible success stories of hacker turned "information security professional", that not all of the guys who were innovative in the pre-WWW days drifted off to become old stoner geeks (well, some did), but many actually matured into responsible adults with a job, a mortgage, and a strong sense of ethics and self control... and a passion for a good hack.
On Mon, 18 Oct 2004 17:38:18 -0500, Kevin <kkadow () gmail com> wrote:Scratch a thirty-something lead InfoSec consultant from any major consulting firm (including the big four), and chances are you'll find a "31337 Hax0r" from the 90's. And this is excluding the obvious L0pht->@Stake->Symantec progression
^^^^^^^^^^^ Yes, L0pht a highly visible example, but not the sole exception to the rule; there are more than a few individuals who, seeing their name in an industry journal, the first thing that comes to my mind is not the respected consulting firm they work for now, but the hacker handle they used back in the old h/p/v scene. Kevin _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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