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RE: Spam Solution
From: "Ng, Kenneth (US)" <kenng () kpmg com>
Date: Fri, 18 Jun 2004 09:41:30 -0500
There isn't going to be any one solution that solves the spam problem. And even if there were, it would be years before we got the bulk of the email systems to handle it. And along the way you know some of the vendors will do their usual "embrace extend exterminate" dirty tricks to put others at a disadvantage. And when sites start using only the new infrastructure there will be pain. But by every means we deny to the spamers, that leaves one less avenue open to them, and forces them to spend resources to find new means. The better ones will adapt, the slower ones will go extinct. Think of it as evolution in action. Yes, its sick, but we're going to be breeding better spammers. -----Original Message----- From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com]On Behalf Of Gadi Evron Sent: Friday, June 18, 2004 6:38 AM To: Alavan Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Spam Solution
Also, if spammers can't forge, so what? They'll just grab the domain name from the PC they've hijacked and send away or go back to using the e-mail client on the machine. Once the spammers change their methodology (which they do all the time to counter anti-spam efforts), these measures will have little to no effect.
I believe this is the main issue here. Spammers already have and use the technology to circumvent all this, so they don't even need to invent new tricks. As long as there are drone armies and unsuspecting "stupid" users, these kind of solutions, although interesting and helpful, are useless to stop actual spam. Another issue is that non of the people I talked this over with see how this can work unless globally adopted by everyone. An adoption of this system over a few years simply won't work. It needs to be over-night and that's not going to happen. Gadi Evron. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html ***************************************************************************** The information in this email is confidential and may be legally privileged. It is intended solely for the addressee. Access to this email by anyone else is unauthorized. If you are not the intended recipient, any disclosure, copying, distribution or any action taken or omitted to be taken in reliance on it, is prohibited and may be unlawful. When addressed to our clients any opinions or advice contained in this email are subject to the terms and conditions expressed in the governing KPMG client engagement letter. ***************************************************************************** _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Spam Solution, (continued)
- Re: Spam Solution Gadi Evron (Jun 18)
- Re: Spam Solution Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 18)
- RE: Spam Solution Larry Seltzer (Jun 18)
- Re: Spam Solution Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 18)
- RE: Spam Solution Bojan Zdrnja (Jun 19)
- RE: Spam Solution Larry Seltzer (Jun 19)
- Re: Spam Solution Aditya, ALD [ Aditya Lalit Deshmukh ] (Jun 20)
- RE: Spam Solution Max Mustermann (Jun 19)
- RE: RE: Spam Solution Larry Seltzer (Jun 19)
- Re: RE: Spam Solution Valdis . Kletnieks (Jun 21)