Re: SNMP Broadcasts

[Martin Wasson <marto () fightingillini com>]

> > This is not, *technically* SNMP, as it is not using it's assigned ports.
> > This is a variant, and interestingly, that port is assigned to
> >
> >               empire-empuma   1691/tcp    empire-empuma
> >               empire-empuma   1691/udp    empire-empuma
> >
> > Unless Sysedge is the decendant of "empire-empuma", it doesn't belong
> > there either
> > Unfortunately, the odds of this kind of newbie being able to
> > successfully utilize it are slim.  Still, if he is going to ask for
> > help with odd packets, he must be able to document them, and this is
> > the standard way to do so.

Oh, I get it.  So if root executes "sshd -p 45522"  --this is not *technically* ssh, right?  Learn that at MCSE school? 
 ;o) Heh heh.  Just kidding.  But really, precisely what protocol does it become on port 45522?  What if the only 
"Listen" directive in my httpd.conf says: "Listen 45580"?  Is it *technically* not an http server?  And you're flaming 
newbies?  Come on, Alif.  Give the guy a break, will you?  He'll learn to ask the right questions, and give you what 
you need to help him.  Someday we're gonna need this guy to help the newbies that come after him.  Do we really want to 
teach him that the way to do that is through insults and abuse until the newbie asks the questions the way HE wants 
them asked?  You're a better man than that.  You've been around a long time, and it's easy to take ALL of that 
experience and knowledge for granted.  You know who that often sets up unreasonable expectations of the wide-eyed does 
just coming up.  When Mr.muthanna tried to help, and !
 corrected you, he did it with class and a genuine interest in helping.  I applaud him for that.  Billybob is looking 
at his external interface and trying to figure out who's trying to get in, right?  So he's at least headed in the right 
direction.  Let's support that instead of stomping on him for being new.  The people to flame are the lazy, 
windows-licking dumbasses who aren't asking for help.

I hope all is well with you, and often wonder how you're doing.


Additionally, Sysedge is an SNMP Management Product marketed by (Concord)Empire Technologies, and it does belong on 
port 1691.

Best Regards,

Marto  


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