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Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability
From: Eric LeBlanc <inouk () igt net>
Date: Mon, 5 Jul 2004 13:42:14 -0400 (EDT)
On Mon, 5 Jul 2004, System Outage wrote:
If it's about posting advisories, why do many decide to post the exploit along with the advisory. To me this is not a responsible thing to do. Whoever knows how many script kiddies are sleeping on this list and taking advantage of the free exploit giveaway's seen here. 10 days isn't an awful long time and the vendor never made primary contact with the user in question. Meaning, for whatever reason the e-mail may not have been delivered and because of this the Gmail Team could easily of been caught short on this issue and a serious hole exposed to the public, before the vendor (Gmail) has had a chance to scramble together an incident response and get the hole patched out, before a serious number of account's become compromised on the service. There is a difference between responsible "Full Disclosure" and irresponsible "Full Disclosure". Cheerio Tremaine <tremaine () gmail com> wrote: It's about posting security advisories. The initial poster advises they notified the gmail team, and posted this advisory 10 days later. It is immaterial whether an application is in alpha, beta or production. If the software or application is in use outside the development team, and there is a security issue, it is relevant to this list. It's called Full Disclosure for a reason... not partial disclosure, not disclosure of production applications only... Full Disclosure. If you want partial disclosure, you may need to rethink your subscription to the list. -- Tremaine IT Security Consultant
I agree with "System Outage". Gmail clearly told us that their website is in BETA stage. For me, when a software is in 'BETA' (or 'ALPHA'), we SHOULD expect that this software MAY HAVE security holes. That's why they want us to test this site before going to the public release, and it's our job to notify to the gmail team all bugs AND security holes we may find. As long as this website is in beta stage, all advisory that someone may send in this list or elsewhere are NOT considered 'Security Advisory' for me. The original author may not receive answers from the Gmail Team, but this site is NOT IN PRODUCTION. When gmail site will be official and when this bug is still there, NOW you can publish your security advisory. Futhermore, the best people for testing the software (bugs and security holes) is the public. They can do many things which we will never thought or imagined. BTW, I'm sure that the Gmail developers expect that the public will find some security holes... If we must publish all security advisorys about beta software, this list will be flooded... E. -- Eric LeBlanc inouk () igt net -------------------------------------------------- UNIX is user friendly. It's just selective about who its friends are. ================================================== _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability, (continued)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability D.J. Capelis (Jul 04)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Rudolf Polzer (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability amforward (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability System Outage (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Syke (Jul 05)
- RE: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Mark Laurence (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Will Image (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Tremaine (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability System Outage (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Rodrigo Barbosa (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Eric LeBlanc (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Tremaine (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability System Outage (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Maarten (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Remko Lodder (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Eric LeBlanc (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability a (Jul 11)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability System Outage (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail Information Disclosure Vulnerability Maarten (Jul 05)
- Re: Gmail/Yahoo! System Outage (Jul 05)
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