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Re: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security
From: Bob Perriero <bob.perriero () gmail com>
Date: Fri, 2 Jul 2004 11:17:41 -0400
The problem with thinking like that though is you aren't taking the consumer into account. Say my mom or dad want to pay their visa bill and they are unsure where to go on the internet to pay. They do a google search and sure enough, the find a page that has a link to visas payment portal or account login page. Now they are happy because even though they are not as technically advanced as people on this list, and they did eventually get to the visa site on their own. They checked the URL and made sure that it was the visa site that they were at. But regardless of what they did to protect themselves, they still become the victims of identity theft. How much more is the average consumer who uses the computer a max of 2 hours a week expected to know? You surely don't expect them to start learning about frames sources or automatic redirects in their web browser, do you? -Bob On Thu, 1 Jul 2004 18:00:07 -0700, Thor Larholm <thor () pivx com> wrote:
From: Pavel Kankovsky [mailto:peak () argo troja mff cuni cz]If a script from site A can replace the contents of a frame within a document from site B then site A is able to violate the *integrity* of B's contents. This is unacceptable.A script from site A can only replace the contents of a window object within a frame from site B if site B is specifically opened through scripting from site A. Site A cannot interact with any window object that it has not created itself, it has to open a new window, wait for it to load and then load a new document in the frame inside this new window. It doesn't even know if you already have an existing browser window pointing at WindowsUpdate or your banking site because it didn't open those windows. You have to look at the prerequisite attack scenario. You are surfing to some random site and out of nowhere it opens WellsFargo.com or WindowsUpdate. At this point you are thinking one of 2 things, either "What the.. I didn't go to WindowsUpdate/WellsFargo .. Let me just close that window .. Damn popups" or "Hey how nice, WindowsUpdate/WellsFargo magically appeared in front of me and I didn't even intend to go there .. I was just surfing for porn .. Let me hurridly download some stuff from there and give it my account details" Thor _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Thor Larholm (Jul 01)
- RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Pavel Kankovsky (Jul 01)
- RE: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Thor Larholm (Jul 01)
- RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Thor Larholm (Jul 01)
- Re: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Bob Perriero (Jul 02)
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- Re: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Gregory A. Gilliss (Jul 01)
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- RE: RE: SUPER SPOOF DELUXE Re: Microsoft and Security Mark Laurence (Jul 02)
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