Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause

[Christopher Downs <cdowns () drippingdead com>]

Hey how come no one said anything about a computer being a "tool" ? 
curious about that.. I think everyone took my slang joke the wrong way 
and only saw the s m o k i n g part.

People really dont care about computers they just use them and thats it. 
They print pictures and play video games - simple and I dont get upset 
cause that what they want and what they paid for.

Oh i also wished luck too ? hahah oh well no big deal guys. I still 
think its a good idea to help people that can or want to be helped but 
not everyone wants it.

take care all.

~!>D

> Bill Royds wrote:
>
> > National Smokeout Day has been very successful in getting people to quit
> > smoking for those wanting to quit smoking. It is not perfect because 
> > smoking
> > is an addiction and only stupid people smoke anyway these days so it 
> > is hard
> > to persuade them to stop.
> >
> > Personal Firewall Day is only one of many possible approaches to 
> > improving
> > security on home machines. Too many people on this list have binary 
> > minds.
> > Either it works perfectly or it doesn't work at all. This may be OK for
> > logic circuits,but it is not valid for humans and computer users are 
> > human
> > not mechanical.
> >   Microsoft sells lots of software for two main reasons:
> > 1/ It is installed on machines when delivered (which is why they were
> > convicted of being a monopoly in desktops).
> > 2/ Because most desktops run Windows, most software aimed at desktops 
> > runs
> > only on Windows.
> >
> >  So you are not going to get MS off the desktop. How else are you 
> > going to
> > protect the Internet and other computers from these users. A personal
> > firewall is much better than closing your eyes and saying "run Linux, 
> > run
> > Linux". A separate firewall between the modem and the box is probably 
> > better
> > and they don't cost that much (about $50-$100) and they can act as a 
> > switch
> > for a home network as well.
> >
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com
> > [mailto:full-disclosure-admin () lists netsys com] On Behalf Of cdowns
> > Sent: January 15, 2004 11:57 AM
> > To: tlarholm () pivx com
> > Cc: bugtraq () securityfocus com; ntbugtraq () listserv ntbugtraq com;
> > full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> > Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, 
> > help the
> > cause
> >
> > Out of curiousity, you cant get people to stop smoking with the 
> > "National Smokeout Day" what makes anyone think that this would do 
> > anything ?
> >
> > Most people consider thier computer the equivelent of a hammer ( a 
> > tool ), in the toolbox at 4:00 pm sharp until they start thier next 
> > workday.
> >
> > maybe im wrong, I wish the best on this.
> >
> > ~!>D
> >
> > tlarholm () pivx com wrote:
> >
> >  
> >
> > > I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal Firewall 
> > > Day.
> > >
> > > http://www.personalfirewallday.org/
> > >
> > > The Personal Firewall Day is a campaign designed to raise awareness 
> > > about
> > >   
> >
> > the dangers we face without a personal firewall. Security experts 
> > such as
> > yourself are encouraged to use the occasion of Personal Firewall Day to
> > share your expertise and advice with your lesser technologically skilled
> > friends and family, and help get them secured by installing a personal
> > firewall - this could be as simple as helping them turn on the XP 
> > firewall.
> > Direct them to the website where they can learn more about personal
> > firewalls and other layers of protection.
> >  
> >
> > > Compromised end-user machines affect us all and the Internet as a whole
> > >   
> >
> > when they are used as zombies for DDoS networks or proxies by criminal
> > spammers, and your personal effort can help remedy this.
> >  
> >
> > > PFD is a direct result of the discussions that originated from the
> > >   
> >
> > NTBugtraq Retreat '03, and would not have been possible without the
> > dedication and hard work put into the project by Paul Robertson, 
> > director of
> > risk assessment with TruSecure and the original proponent of the idea.
> >  
> >
> > > Regards Thor Larholm Senior Security Researcher PivX Solutions 24 
> > > Corporate Plaza #180 Newport Beach, CA 92660 http://www.pivx.com 
> > > thor () pivx com 949-231-8496 PivX defines "Proactive Threat 
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