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Re: Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause
From: Ron DuFresne <dufresne () winternet com>
Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 14:50:59 -0600 (CST)
<quote> Date: Thu, 15 Jan 2004 05:25:51 -0000 From: "http-equiv () excite com" <1 () malware com> To: bugtraq () securityfocus com, full-disclosure () lists netsys com Cc: NTBugtraq () listserv ntbugtraq com Subject: [Full-disclosure] UTTER HORSESHIT: [was January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the cause] We hereby reject this utter horseshit unreservedly. What are you people doing? Who do you think you are fooling. 'Apply bandage day, because we live next to a leaking nuclear reactor day' Test our mettle and by god we'll crush these marketing parasitical scum to shreds ! Fucking Flunkies. </quote> Does give the impression that you're riding whichever tends to be the most pallitable side of the fence at the moment...when taken with your reply to Dave below... Thanks, Ron DuFresne On Thu, 15 Jan 2004, Exibar wrote:
Dave, Sorry to disagree with you, but telling people to simply not use windows and not use Outlook is like telling people not to ride in a car for the fear of getting into an accident. So you're telling me that if I don't run Windows and I don't run Outlook that I'm 100% safe? Horsesh*t! If I install Linux and not Windows XP (for example) I'm safe? There isn't anything else that I have to do? Why not EDUCATE the end-user on how to use Windows and Outlook safely? This is the entire basis behind these personal firewall day, it's about EDUCATING those that don't know. BTW: Not running Anti-virus software is just plain stupid (I will not respond to any flames on this point, so don't bother). Plain and simple. I'm very surprised that any company is able to run that way. Exibar ----- Original Message ----- From: "David F. Skoll" <dfs () roaringpenguin com> To: <tlarholm () pivx com> Cc: <bugtraq () securityfocus com>; <ntbugtraq () listserv ntbugtraq com>; <full-disclosure () lists netsys com> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2004 12:06 PM Subject: [Full-disclosure] Re: January 15 is Personal Firewall Day, help the causeOn Wed, 14 Jan 2004 tlarholm () pivx com wrote:I just wanted to remind everybody that tomorrow is Personal FirewallDay.http://www.personalfirewallday.org/That Web site is utterly disingenuous. Rather than giving low-value information, how about high-value information that actually protectspeople:1) Don't use Windows. 2) Don't use Outlook. Our company uses neither Windows nor Outlook, and although we do have a firewall, we do not use anti-virus software. Of course, the sponsors of the site (Microsoft and a bunch of anti-virus vendors) can hardly see it as being in their interest to actually create a secure computing environment. Regards, David. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html_______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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