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Re: was Core Internet Vulnerable - News at 11:00 -= Your message to Full-Disclosure awaits moderator approval
From: Byron Copeland <nodialtone () comcast net>
Date: 20 Apr 2004 23:04:41 -0400
heh, I know, Sucks. I've been moderated on occasion myself a couple of times on this 'non-moderated list'. Does it now mean FULL-DISCLOSURE = 'Post at your own risk?' it's getting like the security-basics or bug-traq list, or anything else SECURITY-FOCUS IS_NOT_CONCENTRATING_ON' LIST. Anything you post there gets 5 days of scrutiny because it isn't politically correct to post expert opinions or comments to such f'd up lists. Try to send people to the bank to buy a clue or research the problem and then they say isn't appropriate for this forums or the moderators answer to is that the reply is: tooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo break, toooooooooooooooooooooooooooo, long. I could add more bytes, then this would be censored as well. Ok, Ok, solution? -b On Tue, 2004-04-20 at 21:45, Steve Menard wrote:
Moderation of an un-moderated list at it's best on an valid subject no less .... I guess it's my bad as its not named early disclosure So, malware below 20k ........ Ca CHING Bet this fits whithin the 20K ;-) and takes what xx minutes to make it to the last victim At 16:48 AST [1548EST] I sent David Ahmed's copy of [NISCC Vulnerability Advisory 236929: Vulnerability Issues in TCP] forwarded from the UK In reply to Crist J. Clark wrote:Does anyone know WTF they are trying to say in this AP article, "Core Internet Technology Is Vulnerable," http://story.news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story&cid=562&ncid=738&e=1&u=/ap/20040420/ap_on_hi_te/internet_threat It sounds like they are talking about a sequence number guessing attack on TCP BGP sessions? Sequence number prediction isn't really a new attack, but the story says, "Experts previously maintained such attacks could take between four years and 142 years to succeed because they require guessing a rotating number from roughly 4 billion possible combinations. Watson said he can guess the proper number with as few as four attempts, which can be accomplished within seconds." Hmmm... Four attempts... And the story makes it sound like a cross-platform attack, not a bug in a particular OS's ISN generation. FUD or is there something here?I found this [below] in my in basket Luckily I sent Christ the email OFF_LINE smenard PS BONUS POINTS: Dr Phil can't participate can any one tell me why I feel like swearing? full disclosure.....................Limited of course ;-) Your mail to 'Full-Disclosure' with the subject Re: [Full-Disclosure] Core Internet Vulnerable - News at 11:00 Is being held until the list moderator can review it for approval. The reason it is being held: Message body is too big: 46716 bytes but there's a limit of 20 KB Either the message will get posted to the list, or you will receive notification of the moderator's decision. _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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