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Re: Microsoft plans tighter security measures in Windows XP SP2
From: Kenton Smith <ksmith () chartwelltechnology com>
Date: 31 Oct 2003 15:00:28 -0700
On Fri, 2003-10-31 at 11:12, yossarian wrote:
<snip>File and printer sharing is not needed? Remote administration is not needed? Maybe not in home use, but in corporate?No, sorry Paul. Printers have their own IP address, file and printersharing was introduced for small networks. But since the mid nineties a network interface became standard in laserprinters- printersharing became a real non issue. File sharing: not for workstations, unless you make backups of every workstation. Not suitable for corporations, user data is corporate property, needs a back up so MUST be on a server. It is impossible to secure a network where file and printsharing is common (where is the sensitive info to secure?) - my personal BOFH way is disable the server service on every Workstation. And the browser service as well.
What planet are you working on? I have bought 5 printers in the last three years and 2 of those had built-in network cards. The others use "jet-Direct" type interfaces which require software to be installed on the server. You're saying I install this on everyone's workstation so they can connect directly? Uh huh. No file sharing; everything should be stored on a central server. Sure, no problem I'll just go out and drop $100k on a SAN to store it all. *Or* I could take advantage of the fact that every machine I buy comes with at least 40 GB of drive space on it. And I'm sure you're going to suggest thin clients here, so I'll go out and buy a small render farm for my graphics guys to do their 3D work on.
Remote administration may be needed, I just said it is rarely used, for various reasons, the foremost being that the support staff don't know sh**t about the inner workings of windows, MCP or not.
Right and what inner workings do I need to know to use my remote patch management software without RPC? It's really handy actually, but then again maybe there's a better way to do it that I'm just to stupid to know about. <snip> Hopefully we can all agree that anything Microsoft can do to attempt to make it's O/S more secure is better than the way it is now. Kenton _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- RE: Microsoft plans tighter security measures in Windows XP SP2 Schmehl, Paul L (Oct 31)
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