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RE: Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic?
From: John.Airey () rnib org uk
Date: Fri, 17 Oct 2003 18:42:44 +0100
-----Original Message----- From: Jonathan A. Zdziarski To: Randal L. Schwartz Cc: John.Airey () rnib org uk; full-disclosure () lists netsys com Sent: 17/10/03 18:12 Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic?John> I have to wonder how many companies do deals to employ hackers John> (like the movie "Catch me if you can"). I know at least one company that doesn't.There's a big difference between hiring a hacker to do a specific job, and hiring someone then finding out he's hacking. I guess it also depends on whether you are defining a 'hacker' as a criminal hacker or expanding it to include professionals. Based on what I read at the URL you provided, I would be very surprised if Intel hired a rogue criminal hacker to test their security, but I can certainly see companies like Intel hiring professional white-hat hackers or possibly x-"hackers" who have learned their lesson to do the job.
I should have said "criminal hacker" to make it more clear. Of course, you have raised the issue of trust which is something for everyone to think about. How much more trustworthy is an employee who doesn't have a criminal record than one who doesn't? What if the only difference between them is that one hasn't been caught? Also, how can you tell if someone is really reformed? Can you examine their heart? At this point I get back on-topic. You can have all the security you wish, but if the people you employ can't be trusted, you're in a mess. I've heard of many security companies whose security guards run away with security vans and the money. John What - no sig? - DISCLAIMER: NOTICE: The information contained in this email and any attachments is confidential and may be privileged. If you are not the intended recipient you should not use, disclose, distribute or copy any of the content of it or of any attachment; you are requested to notify the sender immediately of your receipt of the email and then to delete it and any attachments from your system. RNIB endeavours to ensure that emails and any attachments generated by its staff are free from viruses or other contaminants. However, it cannot accept any responsibility for any such which are transmitted. We therefore recommend you scan all attachments. Please note that the statements and views expressed in this email and any attachments are those of the author and do not necessarily represent those of RNIB. RNIB Registered Charity Number: 226227 Website: http://www.rnib.org.uk _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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- Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic? John . Airey (Oct 17)
- Re: Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic? Jonathan A. Zdziarski (Oct 17)
- Re: Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic? Randal L. Schwartz (Oct 17)
- Re: Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic? Jonathan A. Zdziarski (Oct 17)
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- RE: Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic? John . Airey (Oct 17)
- RE: Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic? John . Airey (Oct 17)
- Re: Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic? Feher Tamas (Oct 20)
- Re: Re: Teenager cleared of hacking - Off Topic? David Howe (Oct 21)