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Re: Microsoft prepares security assault on Linux ]
From: Damian Gerow <damian () sentex net>
Date: Wed, 12 Nov 2003 15:42:30 -0500
Thus spake William Warren (hescominsoon () adelphia net) [12/11/03 15:33]:
again many folks forget that Red Hat is not Linux..only the linux kernel is linux..the rest are third party apps..so if you really want apples to apples..then take MS and their(ie is critical to the os and therefore part of the OS therefore making it native to the kernel) and the Linux kernel and check vunls..windows will be many orders of magnitude worse..apples to apples that is..:)
bash/tcsh/zsh/ash/whatever are *also* critical to a Linux system (how else do you interact with it?), and by your reasoning, are thus native to the kernel. I don't think they are *native* to the kernel, but I *do* think that they are part of the OS. Sticklers can make the argument, and I technically agree with them, that 'Linux' just means what you get from zeus.kernel.org. However, from the Public's point of view, Linux means the kernel, the shell, X, Gnome/KDE, etc. Microsoft and Apple have bundled basically the entire workstation into one package, and presented it as their OS. So Linux is grouped into that, even though Linux itself is just the kernel. The line between OS and Application has grown pretty fuzzy in recent years. The term 'OS' has grown from 'kernel' to 'that which I need in order to accomplish interaction with the kernel' (... this just came off the top of my head, it's probably not as accurate as it could be). _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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