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Re: automated vulnerability testing


From: Darren Reed <avalon () caligula anu edu au>
Date: Mon, 1 Dec 2003 06:48:02 +1100 (Australia/ACT)

In some mail from Choe.Sung Cont. PACAF CSS/SCHP, sie said:

Bill Royds wrote:
If you are truly interested in security, you won't use C as the
programming
language. 
You must be shitting me..  C does have its inherent flaws but that doesn't
mean that there cannot be a secure application written in C.  This statement
represents FUD at its highest level.

In a sense, he is right.  The effort you need to go to with C in order
to code "securely" is obscene.  Programming should evolve to a point
where programmers don't need to worry about crap like that unless they're
writing bootstrap code for an OS loader (or similar).  Sooner or later,
C needs to become obsolete.

That aside, I can program more easily and securely in Java than I can
with C, any time.  The "more securely" comes from it being easier to
understand by others as much as anything else.

Darren

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