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RE: Robert S Johnson is out of the office.


From: John.Airey () rnib org uk
Date: Thu, 1 May 2003 09:59:57 +0100

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From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu]
Sent: 30 April 2003 18:14
To: John.Airey () rnib org uk
Cc: tcannon () noops org; full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Robert S Johnson is out of the office. 


On Wed, 30 Apr 2003 09:27:15 BST, John.Airey () rnib org uk said:

According to Ollie's book "Under Fire", the messages were 
"deleted" but not
actually removed from the system. It's a bit like deleting 
messages from a
PST file without then compressing it. Or deleting a file 
from a Netware
server without a subsequent purge. Or deleting an email 
from an Exchange
server without purging them from the deleted items folder...

Hmm.. OK.. The way I heard it, the mail system in question 
was IBM's PROFS,
and the data was recovered off the backup tapes.

http://www.fas.org/spp/starwars/offdocs/reagan/chron.txt

The Federation of American Scientists has it that way too.  
Guess it boils
down to who you believe, Ollie or FAS.

Thanks for the link. As Ollie wasn't a techie, it looks like he got it
incorrect in his book. As you point out, even if it was deleted it was
recoverable from backup tape.

He was careful not to send the details of any agents in Nicaragua by email
though and managed to shred the paper copies (again according to his book).
Had their details became public their lives would have been put in danger
(ironic for a man who'd successfully set a price for a human life, which he
admits is his biggest regret).

An interesting lesson in data security.

John

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