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RE: Blowing up PC's and leaking CERT info


From: "Schmehl, Paul L" <pauls () utdallas edu>
Date: Fri, 20 Jun 2003 15:51:38 -0500

I'm aware of what the *press* said was the international attitude.  I'm
aware that the communists worldwide fomented anti-war demonstrations.
I'm not aware of what the attitude of most people in most countries was,
because the press didn't report *that*.

No one but Spain and UK supported it?  Please!  Kuwaitis *celebrated*
the war.  Qatar hosted the Centcom headquarters.  Jordan supported it.
So did Saudi Arabia, Portugal, Australia, Poland, Italy, and a host of
other countries (somewhere around 55 or so.)  The Iraqi exiles in the US
were celebrating in the streets when Sadaam's statue came down.

You can ignore the obvious if you want to.  That's your privilege.  Most
*civilized* people think allowing crazed killers to go around blowing up
innocent citizens is an activity that shouldn't be encouraged.

If a man came in to your house, shot your wife and raped your daughter,
what would you do?  Try to understand his hatred for you?  Emphathize
with his poor upbringing and sad situation?  For you family's sake, I
hope not.  Nor should you be blamed for shooting him dead on the spot.

Yet you blame Bush....

Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
The University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/~pauls/ 

-----Original Message-----
From: Rodrigo Gutierrez [mailto:packet () vtr net] 
Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 2:17 AM
To: Schmehl, Paul L
Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
Subject: RE: [Full-disclosure] Blowing up PC's and leaking CERT info


Paul,
      I'm not sure if you know what was the international 
opinion for the attacks to Iraq, but certainly, no one except 
Spain and UK supported it, if you think a bit, how could for 
instance Iraq nor Afghanistan strike back to the US in what 
they consider was wrong, obviously they don't have a way to 
come and bomb New York from the air, but they do have people 
willing to die for what they think is right (even though 
their religion looks stupid to me).  Tell me on that scenario 
what you think is the most likely way they will come back to 
America, probably suicide bombers and terrorist attacks (they 
don't have another way to do this).

        Thats human logic, if Bush believes that he controls 
everything, he is fucking stupid, he should expect to get a 
reply, he knows that he will get a reply the problem here is 
that he won't get hurt, will probably be American people that 
get hurt for a monkeys attitude of their president, is that 
right to you? is another 9/11 right to you? thats probably 
what Bush will get back on what he's doing.
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