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RE: Speculation in the media (Was: Re: CERT Emp loyee Gets Owned)
From: Andre Ludwig <ALudwig () Calfingroup com>
Date: Tue, 26 Aug 2003 15:42:29 -0700
Speculation is the mother of all f*ckups. I know this list is a "free" list where people can discuss things back and forth. But come on people, i am glad the original poster posted this story. I find it amusing and well informative. Well can we all agree to disagree and if you want to flame please do it off list, as it is more fun that way (think of all the icky words and foul language u can use!). Anyways thanks to the original poster i do think it was a bit OT but i was glad i read it. Andre Ludwig -----Original Message----- From: Peter Busser [mailto:peter () trusteddebian org] Sent: Tuesday, August 26, 2003 1:15 PM To: full-disclosure () lists netsys com Subject: Speculation in the media (Was: Re: [Full-disclosure] CERT Employee Gets Owned) Hi!
You have *zero* knowledge about *this* incident. And *that* was my point. It's bad enough that the damn news media speculates about everything under the sun these days.
Right, the media do speculate about almost everything. Yesterday there was speculation on the Dutch tv about ``cyberterrorism''. The program started about sobig, saying it caused a lot of damage. Then it went on to stating that developing sobig and others takes a lot of people, time and money. Therefore the only organisations who are capable of doing such development are mafia and terrorist organisations. The program went on to conclude that especially public utilities, like power companies, are vulnerable to this kind of terrorism. And of course the obligatory politician who vows to take measures was part of the program. I sent these people an e-mail message saying that the terrorist angle doesn't sound very convincing. Terrorists are, it seems to me, after terrifying people. I don't think shutting down a power plant is a really effective way to do that. Also that most virusses and worms are likely to be written by individuals who try to show off their skills. The only answer I got was: We didn't address this subject, that was a different program. (Nonwithstanding the fact that the title of the broadcast was: Computer-terrorism, something everyone can verify at their web site.) Groetjes, Peter Busser -- The Adamantix Project Taking trustworthy software out of the labs, and into the real world http://www.adamantix.org/ _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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