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Re: more on securing php


From: "Elvedin" <mnsan11 () earthlink net>
Date: Wed, 20 Aug 2003 18:05:03 -0500

Sounds to me like he shouldn't be running a web server at all. If he doesn't
know what he's doing, (or he wants IIS as a web server) that just shows he's
not trustworthy or credible. Did you mention something about a web hosting
company? My best advice is to tell him to forget about it.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Justin Shin" <zorkshin () tampabay rr com>
To: "Full-Disclosure () Lists Netsys Com" <full-disclosure () lists netsys com>
Sent: Wednesday, August 20, 2003 4:58 PM
Subject: [Full-disclosure] more on securing php


Hi guys (sorry for the late response but I'm not really supposed to worry
about this stuff at work ya know :) --

Thanks for all your responses. I already knew he shouldn;t be running
apache as root, I have told him before to run apache as a seperate user (eg.
"apache") but he has yet to fix this.

Once again, the safe_mode on PHP works __directly with the *nix kernel__ ,
meaning that it makes sure that resources accessed are owned by the
currentuser. However, if PHP is called by apache, which runs as root, and if
root owns everything ... I think ya get the picture. :) That was my dillema
before.

Now about IIS. I have told him to run *nix but he is stubborn as a, umm,
donkey when it comes to this stuff. He refuses to touch it, so I told him
apache on Windows. I simply do not *trust* IIS as a stable and secure
webserver. At least apache is secure (to a certain degree).

Also, I have thought maybe he could crate a seperate 2k3 user account per
each new user, but then I don't know if safe_mode works with Windows user
accounts.

So, basically, he shouldn't really be running apache on windows w/ php at
all, right?

Thanks

-- Justin

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