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Re: Re: Syscall implementation could lead to whether or not a file exists
From: <andrewg () d2 net au>
Date: Mon, 7 Apr 2003 09:32:03 +1000 (EST)
Hi!After a while of experimentation, I found that the following formuala seems to be relatively decent at avoiding false positivites, on my RH box. cutoff = ((success_time + failure_time) / 3) - 2 This is somewhat dependant on the load on the box, and where the file is located, though it appears. On some OS's (notably freebsd in my testing) it will store the results of into its cache (different to linux, in the sense that it throws off the algo above.). Thus, if you just create a file and
time
open()ing that, then compare it with a file that has been recently opened, you don't get a fair comparsision. Fix: No known fix exists. Not exactly sure whether a fix is appropiate, as the kernel is meant to be as fast as possible.Umm, this is nasty. Random delay in "return -EPERM" path would not help; making sure every syscall returning EPERM last at least 20usec would but implementing that would be hard.
Under linux, I would think you could do this in the return from the calling of sys_call_table easily, in the interrupt handler ;) However, extending the time the interrupt takes, imo, is bad.
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- Syscall implementation could lead to whether or not a file exists Andrew Griffiths (Apr 04)
- Re: Syscall implementation could lead to whether or not a file exists Pavel Machek (Apr 06)
- Re: Re: Syscall implementation could lead to whether or not a file exists andrewg (Apr 06)
- Re: Syscall implementation could lead to whether or not a file exists Arjan van de Ven (Apr 07)
- Re: Syscall implementation could lead to whether or not a file exists Pavel Machek (Apr 06)