RE: Robert S Johnson is out of the office.

[John.Airey () rnib org uk]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu [mailto:Valdis.Kletnieks () vt edu]
> Sent: 30 April 2003 06:43
> To: Thomas Cannon
> Cc: full-disclosure () lists netsys com
> Subject: Re: [Full-disclosure] Robert S Johnson is out of the office. 
>
>
> I'd quite happily delete it from my system - if they're 
> willing to pay for
> the admin time needed to track it down on our mailserver, 
> trace down which
> backup tapes it might be on if it got backed up before I 
> pop'ed the mail
> down to my laptop, and rebuild the tapes with the problem 
> file excluded.
>
> Of *course* they want us to erase them from the backups too - 
> failure to
> do so was what got Ollie North convicted. ;)  And we're talking about
> a mail system that handles millions of msgs/day - takes a 
> while to ensure
> that there are *no* copies anywhere.
According to Ollie's book "Under Fire", the messages were "deleted" but not
actually removed from the system. It's a bit like deleting messages from a
PST file without then compressing it. Or deleting a file from a Netware
server without a subsequent purge. Or deleting an email from an Exchange
server without purging them from the deleted items folder...

Which goes to prove how difficult to implement these silly disclaimers are
(our's included!)

- 
John Airey, BSc (Jt Hons), CNA, RHCE
Internet systems support officer, ITCSD, Royal National Institute of the
Blind,
Bakewell Road, Peterborough PE2 6XU,
Tel.: +44 (0) 1733 375299 Fax: +44 (0) 1733 370848 John.Airey () rnib org uk 

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