Shawn Moyer is a spook ( and not a very good one)

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wow

turkey and commi actually agree on one thing.

> Hi.
>
> Guys, this is another post from hushmail. I wonder if this mail
>
> provider collecting morons or what?
>
> Besides, I tried to unsubscribe twice to THIS list, what happen
> ed to my requests?
> I got mail in return that it awaits response by admins.
>
> I am fed up with jerks like "theblackfist", or whatever this fi
> st**** call himself.
>
> There is absolutely nothing wrong with posting CV or list of yo
> ur
> relevant knowledge,especially in cases when you are looking for
> new
> job, etc. At least it's common in many countries, it makes thin
> gs simple.
>
> If you find amusing facts of those certifications, I don't, sin
> ce what
> I see is:
>
> Shawn has experience of at least 4 years, and for those 4 years
> amount
> of those certifications is good enough to be on professional le
> vel.
>
> If you are leet, blackie, why don't YOU show us what YOU can an
> d list
> of YOUR achievements? I bet you're still newbie student, or som
> ething
> like that. At least your way of challenge speaks for itself.
> Besides, being "leet" is all relative to what you compare to.
>
> You can't know everything, information flow goes too fast, so a
> ccept
> the fact and stop being ignorant sucker.
>
> Cheers,
> Mik-
>
>
> Hello theblackfist,
>
> Monday, September 23, 2002, 6:48:54 PM, you wrote:
>
> > > > Evalutation of Shawn Moyer
> > > > or "Why anonymity is preferable"
>
> > > Fair enough. You are absolutely 100% correct that I shouldn't
> f
> > > ly the
> > > company flag when posting. Thanks for pointing this out. This
> w
> > > ill be my
> > > last mail here via work. You win.
>
> > > > Subject harbors dissident tendencies, but is held in check
> by
> > > > comfort levels provided by corporate sponsor.
>
> > > Subject chooses to work in a useful and interesting field whi
> ls
> > > t avoiding
> > > employment with FUD-mongering security snake oil software / c
> on
> > > sulting firms
> > > and other shady organizations.
>
> thc> Hrrm. Shady orginizations like this one? :
>
> thc> <klip>
>
> thc> We have the expertise to match your skills and  experience
> with
> thc> the needs of our client employers in the Commercial, Feder
> al,
> thc> Military, and Intelligence communities. ( from http://www.
> net-connect.com/ )
> thc> </klip>
>
> thc> <klip>
>
>
> thc> So when does the broadcast storm happen? Are you sure the
> inside
> thc> interface on the other box isn't up with the same IP as th
> e primary box?
> thc> If so this would account for the broadcast storm. Otherwis
> e I don't see
> thc> how this could happen.
>
> thc> - --shawn
>
> thc> s h a w n   m o y e r
>
> thc> shawn () net-connect net
>
>
> thc> </klip>
>
>
> thc> or this one ? :
>
> thc> Naval Intelligence Professionals - Central Coast Chapter
> thc> web.nps.navy.mil/~cccnip/
> thc> SAG Assessment of Iran  hrrrm.
> thc> you are scaring me now.
> thc> but fuck that. what is a fist if it doesnt
> thc> punch bad guys.
>
> thc> http://web.nps.navy.mil/~relooney/4141_ClassBriefings.htm
>
> thc> is also informative about our dear netsys spook-troll
>
>
> thc>  p473n73d 7bf g3wgl3 t3kn|qu3 br|ng5 7r345ur3 :
>
>
> thc> Shawn Moyer
> thc> Project Lead - Information Security
> thc> Reinsurance Group of America, Inc.
>
> thc> COMPANY DATA:
> thc> COMPANY CONFORMED NAME:REINSURANCE GROUP OF AMERICA INC
> thc> CENTRAL INDEX KEY:0000898174
> thc> STANDARD INDUSTRIAL CLASSIFICATION:ACCIDENT & HEALTH INSUR
> ANCE [6321]
> thc> IRS NUMBER:431627032
> thc> STATE OF INCORPORATION:MO
> thc> FISCAL YEAR END:1231
>
> thc> FILING VALUES:
> thc> FORM TYPE:4
> thc> SEC ACT:1934 Act
> thc> SEC FILE NUMBER:001-11848
> thc> FILM NUMBER:02755288
>
> thc> BUSINESS ADDRESS:
> thc> STREET 1:1370 TIMBERLAKE MANOR PARKWAY
> thc> CITY:CHESTERFIELD
> thc> STATE:MO
> thc> ZIP:63017-6039
> thc> BUSINESS PHONE:6367367000
>
> thc> MAIL ADDRESS:
> thc> STREET 1:1370 TIMBERLAKE MANOR PARKWAY
> thc> CITY:CHESTERFIELD
> thc> STATE:MO
> thc> ZIP:63017-6039
>
> thc> CHASTISE : If you have indeed disconnected with the intel
> community,
>
> thc> ( and I dont believe anyone truly does) you should be asha
> med of yourself
>
> thc> your resume' here says :
>
> thc> CCSA - Checkpoint Certified Sec. Admin 5/01
> thc> 9th Usenix Security Symposium 8/00
> thc> CheckPoint CCSA / CCSE Training 2/00
> thc> Cisco CCDA Primer Training 11/99
> thc> CCNA - Cisco Certified Network Associate 10/99
> thc> Cisco Frame Relay Lab / Training 8/99
> thc> Cisco CCNA Primer Training 6/99
> thc> Cisco VPN Solutions Seminar / Lab 4/99
> thc> Cisco LAN/WAN Router Lab / Training 2/99
> thc> CompTia A+ Certification 7/98
>
> thc> Until at least as recent as february of 2001 you worked as
>
> thc> Senior Web Security Consultant at Mastercard International
>
> thc> in St. Louis (seems like a good place for an intel plant),
> and you have given substandard instruction to the american military and intel community if your negligence @ 
> Reinsurance Group of
> thc> America is any indicator ( and yes I say negligence becaus
> e we all saw from
> thc> the lesson that brutha bunny taught secfocus , even a full
> -of-shit triviality (like 10k wizard - see sunday sermon) that doesnt reside on your server can get you OWNED)
>
> thc> There are 3 possibilities in our all seeing eyes Mr. Moyer
> .
>
> thc> 1.) You are a complete moron who has no clue about what ha
> s been,
> thc> and what will continue to go on, ( see Theo the rat,
> thc> ryan pusstule [Blue Hoar],fate-labias, and a multitude
> thc> of other charlatans ) or maybe had no idea that the ascend
> ed
> thc> ones resided on this list. I doubt it.
>
> thc> 2.) You assumed that all the "trolls" were children uncapa
> ble of mounting
> thc>     such a knive-tongued attack on your credibility ( vali
> d whichever
> thc>     way it goes)
>
> thc> 3.) If you are indeed still with intel what the hell is yo
> ur problem! It REALLY
> thc>     FUCKING DISTURBS ME that I can find your home address
> and number. AGHHHHH
> thc>     ( I withheld it) Jeezuz. don't you realize that a majo
> rity of the world
> thc>      doesn't like us? ( yes, I am happy San Antonio reside
> nt) You people need to
> thc>     evaluate all of your policies. I am NOT a fan of guv b
> ut it is bad time now.
> thc>     I don't like the idea of chewing on chunky bio-haz coo
> kies for breakfast.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> > > Oh, and trust me, the comfort le
> > > vels are very
> > > minimal in comparison to a lot of the InfoSec rock stars out
> th
> > > ere, and
> > > certainly not enough to hold any dissident tendencies in chec
> k.
> > > I've just
> > > found positive channels for mine, that's all.
>
> thc> Dunno your dossier looks pretty fucking "rockstar" to me
>
>
> > > You have to offer something beyond these absolutes... Who *is
> *
> > > it acceptable
> > > to work for? It is acceptable to work, right? Who are the goo
> d
> > > guys? Please
> > > inform.
>
> thc> The jury remains out on that one clyde.
>
>
> > > > Sean [sic] write
> > > > personal mail to me and call attention to himself as well a
> s
> > > > he employer Reinsurance Group of America
>
> > > If "call attention" equates to replying with a songlist in re
> sp
> > > onse to
> > > yours, again, fair enough. I guess you're really not a Screec
> hi
> > > ng Weasel
> > > fan.
>
> thc> Actually I liked a majority of your song sharing. David By
> rne rox.
>
> > > > let them know what you think of a respectable co. like RGA
> al
> > > lowing
> > > someone
> > > > like shawn, who is obviously a terrorist, to remain on the
> pa
> > > yroll.
>
> > > Terrorist, no, although my hat is growing more white and less
> g
> > > ray by the
> > > moment, thanks to you. You have no idea how icky that feels.
> thc> grrm .guv greyhat
>
> thc> Lighten up. It was a joke meant to summon up visions of ti
> ps occiferz
> thc> busting down your door.
>
>
>
> > > > Note to Shawn: this is for your own good. you are not your
> kh
> > > akis.
>
> > > I prefer moleskin, actually. I'd love to understand what this
> c
> > > omment means.
>
> thc> Fight Club
>
>
> thc> You are not your job.
> thc> You are not the money in your bank account.
> thc> You are not the car you drive. You are not how much money
> thc> is in your wallet. You are not your fucking khakis.
> thc> You are the all-singing, all-dancing crap of the world.
> thc> - --------------------
> thc> You are not special. You are not a beautiful or unique sno
> wflake.
> thc> You are the same decaying organic matter as everything els
> e.
> thc> - --------------------
>
> thc> Everywhere I travel, tiny life. Single-serving sugar,
> thc> single-serving cream, single pat of butter. The microwave
> thc> Cordon bleu hobby-kit. Shampoo- conditioner combos.
> thc> Sample-packaged mouthwash. The people I meet on flights?
> thc> They're single-serving friends.You are not your job. You
> thc> are not the money in your bank account. You are not the
> thc> car you drive. You are not how much money is in your walle
> t.
> thc> You are not your fucking khakis. You are the all-singing,
> thc> all-dancing crap of the world.
>
> > > > *__*> anti-sec, anti-establishment, pro-individualist,
>
> > > Then how come my individualism gets me singled out? Or is it
> on
> > > ly
> > > individualism on your terms that's acceptable? Think hard bef
> or
> > > e you answer.
> > > I'd love to discuss this over beers sometime rather than in a
> p
> > > ublic forum,
> > > but the point is, FWIW, your animosity is grossly misdirected
> .
>
> thc> I wonder at times, by what I have read of yours, and your
> course materials
> thc> . Your playlist was in your favor. But you have been weigh
> ed.
>
> thc> And you have been found wanting.
>
>
> thc>                    |
> thc>                   .:.
> thc>                  /___\
>
>
> thc>            We believe in this.
>
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