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From: "Euan Briggs" <euan_briggs () btinternet com>
Date: Sat, 23 Nov 2002 12:31:06 -0500
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Think about the people you think you know online. This is the only hint I will give you. Think about the timing of all of this. Think about the new Office of Homeland Security. Think about the $200M+ SAIC contract with the NSA. Think about the failure of the NIPC, and the political reasons (and I mean real politics, not this phony blackhat/whitehat stuff) behind shutting down full disclosure, consolidating cliques, and inciting new activity in the underground. Do real blackhats really act this way? Think about why the original progenitors of all this have already left. Think about why certain people have been fired, or sent away, or have been behaving the way they are to attract attention, your friendship, and your trust. Think about why and how certain people have been busted, or have disappeared silently. Think about what they have told others.
This is a very interesting point indeed. Are these young, impressionable, idealistic second-generation blackhats vulnerable to political manipulation? I have already stated that I don't think their agenda has a positive impact on the real blackhat scene. Infact, it provides the perfect, visible justification for the lock-down of the internet and the supression of people who, if they truly did have malicious intentions, could be a very real and significant threat to the electronic infrastructure which we now all depend on. Governments must be jumping with joy at the actions of PHC, with their heavy handed paranoid legislation etc just waiting for this kind of justification. You just need to look at the USA Governments new TIA (total information awareness) plan, to see how paranoid they have become about the intellectual freedom and communication that the internet puts in peoples hands. The internet is an enormous threat to the control the media and governments have exercised successfully on the population throughout the 20th century, and threatens to unlock the mental chains which keeps the population under control of those in power. The fact that someone kick-started PHC and then seemed to dissapear, certainly makes me a little suspicious. The fact that their agenda is actually detrimental to the original blackhat movement also makes me supicious. The fact that they don't seem to have any real coherent argument makes me suspicious. The real blackhat movement is unrepresented, it operates in the shadows. It doesn't take much for someone to stand up and claim to represent it, and there is no reason why real blackhats would. No doubt some of you are now thinking "conspiracy theorist wacko!", and to you I say check out the following site : http://www.cointel.org . I am not suggest PHC are government spooks or whatever, but I think it is entirely feasible that they could have been unwittingly manipulated by external forces, and this is a possibility which should not be immediately discounted as paranoia. In the post 11/09 environment, serious change is afoot and people need to have their wits about them. You should not be suckered into thinking that the government doesn't care about the effects of the internet. Euan -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use <http://www.pgp.com> iQA/AwUBPd+7V0P0lBKBG8xoEQI+KQCg53tw4o6zSZ1HFDa0qdnq6iGKLUEAn1Oj 3iKUNuXlPQBKPrxLtOh+z+Dp =7/pp -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- _______________________________________________ Full-Disclosure - We believe in it. Charter: http://lists.netsys.com/full-disclosure-charter.html
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