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Re: Malicous Domains and IDS/IPS signatures


From: "Sanjay R" <2sanjayr () gmail com>
Date: Sat, 8 Nov 2008 20:30:36 +0530

hi Mayanak

On Tue, Nov 4, 2008 at 12:07 PM, Bhatnagar, Mayank
<mbhatnagar () ipolicynetworks com> wrote:

Hi,

Often we find while analyzing malwares or binaries, some malicious
domains become inactive after some period of time.

They may be active during initial period of activity, malwares when
executed connecting to these domains, these domains then sending
malicious files....binaries etc.....but just as soon as this information
is being known or the behavior has been captured by IDS/IPS signatures
blocking this domain, soon the domain itself become inactive.

What do you feel should be the responsibility of IDS/IPS solution
providers? I feel keeping track of such domains (live or down) in an
automated manner may be one possibility, keeping a signature for some
time as a measure of protection another. Also maintaining blacklists of
these domains may be helpful.
this is how a blacklist is maintained and it is being done already. I
dont know about the views of IPS/IDS vendors on maintaining a list as
its more a marketing funda with added (additional) feature (along with
full featured IPS/IDS). as far as a pure IPS/NIDS is concerned, its
role is to prevent/detect any such malicious file. Its not an option
for misused based IPS/NIDS, but a must have feature to keep
signatures.
another thing that i want to mention (keeping products/marketing a
side), there is a diffence between IPS and ACLS of a (proxy) firewall.
the later keeps a static ACL (e.g. block some IP or domain), whereas
former is dynamic and blocks some IP/domain only when it detects
something malicious from that. so blocking a domain statically (or
permanently) is not, as such, a function of IPS. however, it can be
done by maintaining a blacklist of URLs

How should one handle such cases? Any ideas?

Thanks & Regards,
Mayank

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