RE: PCI/DSS compliant Managed IDS

["Craig Wright" <Craig.Wright () bdo com au>]

Hello,
PCI is a contractual arrangement. It is not legistlative.
So the answer is a resonding maybe. OR and it depends.
 
If the Managed IDS [MIDS] supplier is specifically stating that they are offering PCI-DSS services, than they would 
have to meet the requirements in either case or it is a trade practices/unfair dealings/false statement issue. This is 
either a civil tort or criminal offense.
 
The onus is for the merchant or issuer using the MIDS to ensure that they have a contract stating this. Section 12.8 
states:
12.8 If cardholder data is shared with service providers, then contractually the following is required:

12.8.1 Service providers must adhere to the PCI DSS requirements

12.8.2 Agreement that includes an acknowledgement that the service provider is responsible for the security of 
cardholder data the provider possesses.

This is a contractual arrangement. You also need to read Requirement A.1: Hosting providers protect cardholder data 
environment
 
If the merchant etc did not contract to have the provider be PCI-DSS compliant and the provider did not explicitly 
state that they are, then the merchant is in breach of the PCI-DSS - and NOT the MIDS provider.
 
Regards,
Craig



Craig Wright
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From: listbounce () securityfocus com on behalf of marino.zini () uk clara net
Sent: Fri 24/08/2007 1:37 AM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: PCI/DSS compliant Managed IDS



Would Managed Security Company providing a Managed IDS service for a company with Tier 1 PCI/DSS compliance have to be 
PCI/DSS compiaant itself?

Does anyone have an opinion or experience with this?

regards

Marino



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