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IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback
From: watsont <thomas.watson.b () bayer com>
Date: Thu, 16 Mar 2006 11:55:42 -0800 (PST)
Here is my quandary: In recent years there has been an increasing buzz that Intrusion Detection is dead. We hear that the next, pardon the OLD cliche, 'killer app' for security professionals to deploy in their network for identifying and protecting against malicious attacks is IPS. I am by no means an Intrusion Prevention bigot but I have a philosophical issue with deploying a device that is fairly immature, in my mind, in line with production traffic that, should it be interrupted for ANY reason, might impact the businesses we work so hard to protect. I struggle with putting my name on the list of phone numbers to call when the device I deployed to protect the environment actually DOS's our customers (both internal and external). I fully understand the value in preventing traffic that we may know to be malicious such as worms and the like but there are other mature protection methods already available in products that are widely deployed (modern firewalls) which can proactively handle these types of issues. I think we would be better suited to look at what firewalls can't do well yet such as web application level protection but that is another topic should you like to broach I'd be happy to discuss....... My second issue with IPS, at least the current incarnation of them, is that they do a mediocre job of handling false positives which would lead back to my initial concern of blocking valid traffic. Lets face it, though they are getting better, most IPS vendors are providing a solution that grew out of IDS type devices. It took several years and much pain to develop, deploy and reliably tune devices that are able to keep up with an ever increasing number of attacks and growth in bandwidth. In my opinion IDS is by no means dead. Should we march toward ACTIVE protection measures rather than REACTIVE ones to keep our networks safe? Absolutely! Are there products out today than can do this? Sure, but I do not have a level of comfort yet with any of them. Much of the rhetoric and push for deploying IPS devices that are available seems to come from Marketing and Sales people, not Security professionals. Which is why I am reaching out to you, your experiences and your thoughts surrounding this issue. I will not be publishing this information or sharing it otherwise, it is purely personal and professional. I may be completely off base in my reasoning which I can accept and am willing to be convinced otherwise. Thanks in advance for your time! I look forward to hearing from you. Tom - CISM, CISSP -- View this message in context: http://www.nabble.com/IDS-vs.-IPS-deployment-feedback-t1293748.html#a3443521 Sent from the IDS (Intrusion Detection System) forum at Nabble.com. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Test Your IDS Is your IDS deployed correctly? Find out quickly and easily by testing it with real-world attacks from CORE IMPACT. Go to http://www.securityfocus.com/sponsor/CoreSecurity_focus-ids_040708 to learn more. ------------------------------------------------------------------------
Current thread:
- IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback watsont (Mar 20)
- Re: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Jean-Philippe Luiggi (Mar 23)
- <Possible follow-ups>
- RE: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Carey, Steve T GARRISON (Mar 21)
- Re: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback nightelfhunter (Mar 21)
- RE: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Andrew Plato (Mar 23)
- Re: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Stefano Zanero (Mar 27)
- RE: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Cojocea, Mike (IST) (Mar 27)
- Re: RE: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback xris375 (Mar 27)
- RE: RE: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Andrew Plato (Mar 28)
- Re: RE: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Devdas Bhagat (Mar 29)
- Re: RE: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Jean-Philippe Luiggi (Mar 31)
- Re: RE: IDS vs. IPS deployment feedback Devdas Bhagat (Mar 29)
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