RE: Real world experience with HIDS

["Sekurity Wizard" <s.wizard () boundariez com>]

Haha... I work with a very large installation of ISS RSS 7.0 on UNIX &
Windows.  I wish I could tell you which company I work for, but alas,
it's against regulations.

We currently have 200+ RSS/HIDS Agents on UNIX + Windows platforms, and
your answers are in-line below.

Cheers.

/Wizard 

-----Original Message-----
From: Palmer, Paul (ISSAtlanta) [mailto:PPalmer () iss net] 
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 6:20 PM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: RE: Real world experience with HIDS

Paul,

I wonder how many sales guys are going to e-mail you pretending to be
from a competitor ;)

Paul

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Schmehl [mailto:pauls () utdallas edu]
Sent: Tuesday, January 31, 2006 4:45 PM
To: focus-ids () securityfocus com
Subject: Real world experience with HIDS


I have some questions for real world users (not vendors) of HIDS
products. 
If you are using HIDS products *and* you're happy with the results,
please 
respond to the following quesitons.

1) Ease of install - can it be done through GPO?  SMS?  Login scripts?
        No, No, No :-)

2) Usefulness of the information generated - have you detected any 
exploits?  How were you notified?  Etc.,
        Useful for lots of false positives and we even found some work
propogation with it.

3) Centralized management - is there any?  If so, how easy is it to use?
        RSS SiteProtector Console - decent at best - slow

Configurable at the host level?  Or group of hosts level?
        Group level, via policy per group container.

4) Access to data - is it possible to restrict access to the data so
that 
an administrator on the server would *not* be able to see the output of
the 
HIDS?
        Not sure what you mean?

5) Interference with the server - does it consume lots of memory or CPU?
        No, it doesn't, barely noticeable
        
Is it proactive or passive?
        Proactive but mostly passive, only a few signature trigger
auto-blocks

6) Would you purchase again, if you had the option?
        No - there are better solutions

PLEASE NOTE:  Any vendor on this list who emails me suggesting their 
product will be automatically dropped from consideration, so be
forewarned. 
You're welcome to respond on the list, if you like, but don't email me
or 
you'll be eliminated from consideration.

Paul Schmehl (pauls () utdallas edu)
Adjunct Information Security Officer
University of Texas at Dallas
AVIEN Founding Member
http://www.utdallas.edu/ir/security/

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