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Re: Changes in IDS Companies?


From: Scott Wimer <scottw () cylant com>
Date: Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:03:11 -0800

Raistlin wrote:
Even if there were no false alarms, something that automatically cuts in and
prevents communication has an astounding potential to become the worst
Denial-of-service tool on the market...

It is really difficult to implement an AI engine clever enough to understand
which attacks are using the prevention feature to actually cause harm
_through_ the IPS itself.

One way to do this is by implementing meta monitoring of the IPS tools themselves -- looking for patterns of activity in the counter-measures applied by the IPS. This won't let you prevent a few mis-applied counter-measures, but it should be able to substantially mitigate the risk of several hundred or several thousand "whoopsies".

The behavior of a set of IPS tools should be just as profilable as the behavior of a set of processes. Except, in this case, what you would be looking for is not the behavior breaking out of the pattern, but rather a case where the behavior forms a pattern where previously there had been mostly just noise. Kind of like a spike of signal against background radiation.

Regards,
scottwimer

Stefano "Raistlin" Zanero
System Administrator Gioco.Net
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