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Username password VS hardware token plus PIN
From: MHawkins () TULLIB COM
Date: Tue, 22 Feb 2005 10:08:42 -0500
Hi people, Here's something I've been wondering for some time now. What is the value of hardware token with burned in PIN as compared to username password (when the password policy is forced strong)? We enforce strong password policy in our organization. So when a user logs into the VPN, I am reasonably confident of the validity of the authentication mechanism. The only problem is if a user writes down their password and keeps it with the laptop or PC. Even then, I am confident that XX days later, the password will be different to what they wrote down (ok they will just write the new one down). I fail to see the benefit of using hardware tokens that rely on a one time set PIN number (which seems to be all of them). The one time PIN burned into most USB tokens is almost guaranteed to be written down by dumb users (unfortunately of which there are many) and so the end result is that the USB token, the PIN and the laptop are all in a nice handy easy to steal location. I have searched long and hard for a token that can use a username password combination along with the PIN but to no avail. Why are so many organizations intent on using hardware/software tokens? What am I missing here? What solutions are out there that do not use a PIN but use some username/password combination along with the hardware/software token? Mike Hawkins ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ------------------------- The information contained in this email is confidential and may also contain privileged information. Sender does not waive confidentiality or legal privilege. If you are not the intended recipient please notify the sender immediately; you should not retain this message or disclose its content to anyone. Internet communications are not secure or error free and the sender does not accept any liability for the content of the email. Although emails are routinely screened for viruses, the sender does not accept responsibility for any damage caused. Replies to this email may be monitored. For more information about the Collins Stewart Tullett group of companies please visit the following web site: www.cstplc.com ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- -------------------------- _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- Re: Username password VS hardware token plus PIN Frank Knobbe (Feb 22)
- Re: Username password VS hardware token plus PIN Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 22)
- Re: Username password VS hardware token plus PIN Frank Knobbe (Feb 22)
- Re: Username password VS hardware token plus PIN ArkanoiD (Feb 22)
- Re: Username password VS hardware token plus PIN Frank Knobbe (Feb 22)
- Re: Username password VS hardware token plus PIN Dragos Ruiu (Feb 23)
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- Re: Username password VS hardware token plus PIN Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 22)
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