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RE: Log checking?


From: Larry Pitcher <pitcherl () bakerboyer com>
Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2004 09:34:22 -0700

Maybe this is too obvious to mention, but what I watch for in my firewall
logs are denied connections trying to go from the inside to the Internet on
closed ports. It gives me a look at misconfigured or infected PCs. 

Larry Pitcher

Internet Product Manager
Baker Boyer Bank
509.526.1429
pitcherl () bakerboyer com


-----Original Message-----
From: Paul D. Robertson [mailto:paul () compuwar net] 
Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2004 8:25 AM
To: Luke Butcher
Cc: firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com
Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] Log checking?


On Wed, 29 Sep 2004, Luke Butcher wrote:

In this scenario I'm trusting the firewall to block all known bad. The 
IDS is just a mechanism to sift the more 'interesting' stuff that's 
gets THROUGH the firewall (from the outside).

But, again- IDS is "known bad"- we don't get IDS signatures for "stuff we
don't know is good."

Strategically, I'm less worried about find things that will be IDS
signatures next month than I am about finding things that will never be IDS
signatures.  Yes, that's a lot of data to deal with, but it's the
higher-cost threats in my view, such as the bad insider, strategic
compromise, etc.

Saves having to troll through all the traffic that gets past the 
firewall, which is nearly all legitimate. Alerts in this case would be

Ah, but what I'm suggesting is that for emergent threats, that trolling is
actually useful.

When everything's coming your way, you're in the wrong lane.

Nah, it just means you're in a target rich environment ;)

Paul
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