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Re: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?)
From: Gary Flynn <flynngn () jmu edu>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2004 20:35:42 -0500
Christopher Lee wrote:
I think the phrase "useless" could be a little hash in this case, consider what IPS has been expected to do (not what Mr. Stiennon has defined)... IPS has been pretty much been expected to weed out the known bad traffics on your network, such as control/compartmenting the spreading of viruses. In that scenario, it is not difficult for someone to code up a signature that looks for these type of behaviour in a sequence of packets, which requires no "real" packet/session reassembly. This approach, in my own humble opinion, is no different than how most AV software looks for malware (not viruses, which attaches itself to "any" executables) these days. Obviously, this approach has its own shortcoming (just ask the Exchange administrators who lost their information store database to poorly configured AV software).
Kind of a side note to your example: Virus handling is best done on a device that proxies an actual SMTP server. If you block or drop an SMTP session at a lower layer in the middle of an SMTP transaction due to one message containing a virus, it may queue up on the sending mail server and block all messages behind it for quite a while. Also, and I speak from experience, if you drop worm carrying packets with an IDP when they're coming in hot and heavy, you better send a reset to the server to tear down the session or the number of open SMTP sessions will do bad things to the server. :) _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
Current thread:
- Re: Re: IPS, (continued)
- Re: Re: IPS Gary Flynn (Feb 27)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Ben Nagy (Feb 27)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Chris Blask (Feb 27)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Marcus J. Ranum (Feb 26)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Paul Robertson (Feb 26)
- Re: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Gary Flynn (Feb 27)
- Re: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Paul Robertson (Feb 27)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Paul Robertson (Feb 26)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Don Parker (Feb 26)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Kowsik Guruswamy (Feb 27)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Christopher Lee (Feb 27)
- Re: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Gary Flynn (Feb 29)
- RE: IPS (was: Sources for Extranet Designs?) Christopher Lee (Feb 27)