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Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules
From: "Paul D. Robertson" <paul () compuwar net>
Date: Mon, 30 Aug 2004 08:41:55 -0400 (EDT)
On Sun, 29 Aug 2004, Jeremiah Cornelius wrote:
His "Terms of Service" are a minor contract, and may well have been unilaterally ammended by the ISP after he became a customer. This has happened in hundreds of reported incidents - especially with cable operators, who understand a television broadcast model.
That makes it a contract issue, which he should take up with his provider or the courts. The usage policies at companies change over time too, that doesn't mean you get to ignore the ones that happen after you become employed.
I don't think there is much of an ethical dilimma in helping this fellow out, as long as he is aware that he is risking his service.
I think there is definitely an ethical question here.
If, in his locale, he can't get an equivalent ISP without such an onerous restriction, then his ISP is likely an illegal monopoly. They block the
Again, the correct venue is the court system. Dial-up is still available, with static addresses, so is co-location, hosting, T-1 circuits, and a bunch of other options.
ability to serve port 80? They are out of RFC compliance in providing Internet services. You probably can't get an uneducated court to agree -
Just like every corporate network in existence?
but I'd claim that what they are providing doesn't meet the definition of "Big-I" Internet, and are guilty of contratual bad-faith and misrepresentation.
Again, circumventing policy and breaking a contract are not the correct ways to approach this. Given that hosting is free or near free, the arguments are weak anyway. Given the number of already compromised home machines on broadband, I *definitely* would rather that the generic population were put behind firewalls, and kept there. If you need more, then pay for it- my goodness- the cable company are the only ones providing cable service in his area- shouldn't he just tap in if he can't afford it? Contrary to popular opinion, full access to the Internet is neither a god-given right, nor a necessity. Paul ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- Paul D. Robertson "My statements in this message are personal opinions paul () compuwar net which may have no basis whatsoever in fact." probertson () trusecure com Director of Risk Assessment TruSecure Corporation _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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- About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Servie Platon (Aug 28)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Jim Seymour (Aug 29)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Mark (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Jim Seymour (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Barney Wolff (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Jim Seymour (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Mark (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Paul D. Robertson (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Jim Seymour (Aug 29)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Jeremiah Cornelius (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Paul D. Robertson (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Servie Platon (Aug 30)
- Re: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Jim Seymour (Aug 30)
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- RE: About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules Fetch, Brandon (Aug 30)
- About Port Forwarding, Apache and Firewall Rules - conclusion Servie Platon (Aug 30)