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Re: RE: Why blocking bogons buys you nothing (Mikael Olsson)
From: Barney Wolff <barney () databus com>
Date: Sun, 9 Nov 2003 20:07:14 -0500
On Sun, Nov 09, 2003 at 07:07:10PM +0100, Mikael Olsson wrote:
40-50% is not "significant" for a DDoS in my opinion. Especially not if you're doing it on the wrong end of your Internet connection.
Depends on your goal. If your goal is immunity from every DDoS, yes. But that goal is unattainable by any means. If your goal is to reduce the frequency of outages caused by DDoS, 50% is significant, because not every attack will come from the most powerful attacker. Whether your Internet connection has a wrong end depends on its bandwidth. If you're in a colo with GigE or better, and servers each of which cannot absorb that on its own, any means of degrading the attack is worth trying. If you're behind a T1 or DSL there's nothing you can do on your end. One way to filter bogons inbound is to take a BGP feed and do loose RPF on your inbound interface(s). That way you don't have to worry about keeping your bogon list up to date, and you also reject a greater fraction of spoofed packets, because there's a lot of space that's assigned but not advertised. Strict RPF on outbound is simply good citizenship and ought to be part of every end-system's firewall rules. -- Barney Wolff http://www.databus.com/bwresume.pdf I'm available by contract or FT, in the NYC metro area or via the 'Net. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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