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RE: tunnel vs open a hole
From: David Lang <david.lang () digitalinsight com>
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 17:48:09 -0700 (PDT)
you can purchase support for most, if not all open-source software if that is the real problem. unfortunantly it's not. opensource software does tend to have things fixed faster when problems are discovered, but I think it was the recent sendmail holes taht had been in the code for 8 years without being discovered. more eyes doesn't eliminate all bugs. (this isn't to say commercial software is any better, win95 had a bug in it that wasn't discovered for 4 years that prevented it from running for more then 50 days) another problem with open-source software is that since people tend to do the work that's fun, minor things like documenting how to use the software tends to lag significantly. when a company looks at useing opensource software they need to include the cost of these things in the balance. I still believe that in most cases opensource is still better, but it's not free. David Lang On Tue, 15 Apr 2003, Bowden, Kevin wrote:
Date: Tue, 15 Apr 2003 10:24:57 -0400 From: "Bowden, Kevin" <bowden_kw () naptheon com> To: firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] tunnel vs open a hole Well, one reason at least, is management's hesitation / refusal to trust enterprise solutions to an ethereal support system. They want to be able to have someone pick up a phone when something breaks so they can get the problem fixed ASAP. While this is no guarantee of a fix, at least they can upwardly report "Our technical guys are on the phone with the vendor." That is a bit more substantial than "they dropped a post in a usenet group and are waiting for someone to reply." Kevin W. Bowden, CISSP Senior Firewall Administrator Northrop Grumman Information Technology -----Original Message----- From: Marcus J. Ranum [mailto:mjr () ranum com] Sent: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 10:06 AM To: Sloane, David; firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com Subject: RE: [fw-wiz] tunnel vs open a hole Sloane, David wrote:I was just about to ignore this ever-expanding thread when this post from Mr. Ranum caught my attention. Every aspect of the problem is addressed by open-source software development.Spoken like a true believer... _BUT_ -- if open source is the solution, why do we still have the problem? mjr. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () honor icsalabs com http://honor.icsalabs.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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Current thread:
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole, (continued)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Crispin Cowan (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Mark Gumennik (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 10)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Behm, Jeffrey L. (Apr 10)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Dana Nowell (Apr 11)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Magosányi Árpád (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Sloane, David (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Marcus J. Ranum (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Bowden, Kevin (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole David Lang (Apr 15)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Julian Gomez (Apr 16)
- Re: tunnel vs open a hole Joseph S D Yao (Apr 16)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole David Lang (Apr 15)
- RE: tunnel vs open a hole Sloane, David (Apr 16)