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RE: SecureID vs Certificates


From: Frank Knobbe <FKnobbe () KnobbeITS com>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2001 11:42:27 -0600

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From: Michael H. Warfield [mailto:mhw () wittsend com]
Sent: Monday, February 12, 2001 5:25 PM

      Really?  "Pretty obvious?"  After the algorithm was published
on BugTraq and confirmed by another poster (who has RSA 
connections) and
then analyzed by Mudge and King Pin to be basically a 64 bit 
key system
with only 22 bits of time seed and passes the user PIN over the
wire? That SecureID?  Doesn't seem so obvious to me.

That may be, but there are other tokens out there besides SecureID. I
prefer the Digipass from Vasco.

      If they sniff the wire for a few token entries passed in clear
and record your PIN, the token, and the time, I would say they have
a 64 bit plaintext attack on your token card.  Tough, but not 
impossible. [...]

hehe, that's actually one of the reasons I prefer Vasco. The pin
never gets transmitted, it's only used to unlock the token (which
means you have to type the pin into the token).

I could go on about the differences between, but I don't want to turn
this into a 'who has the best token' thread. I just want to remind
everyone that SecureID is not the only token on the market. Shop and
compare for yourself.


Regards,
Frank



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