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Re: Firewall Rule Migration Utilities?
From: Avishai Wool <avishai_w () yahoo com>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2001 09:21:58 -0800 (PST)
Johann, You might be able to use the Lumeta Firewall Analyzer (LFA) to help you out. We've had clients use it in exactly this way: run the analysis on the firewall being decommissioned, generate the report showing exactly what the existing firewall was allowing in (and what NAT it was doing), then write the policy using the new firewall's tools based on the LFA report. LFA doesn't translate the policy to a new firewall's language, but you get a very clear picture of the existing policy, which saves many many hours of grunt work. LFA supports Cisco PIX and Check Point FW-1. So if you're decommissioning a Gauntlet, LFA can't help you, but if you're decommissioning a FW-1 or PIX, you may want to check it out. Disclaimer: I created what became the Lumeta Firewall Analyzer as a researcher at Bell Labs, and I work for Lumeta, so I'm obviously biased. Hope this helps, Avishai --- Johann van Duyn <Johann_van_Duyn () bat com> wrote:
Hi, Chad... Thanks. Your comments on the issue are noted; however, it would save me a heap of typing if a conversion tool existed. My plan, given such a tool, would be to convert the rulebase, and then go through it with a fine-tooth comb to tidy the new rulebase up, remove the fluff and any badly conceived rules. Oh well... it seems I'm in for a busy spell. I hate doing real work. :-/ I just wish I were converting the rulebase to a Raptor firewall... gives me a much warmer feeling inside. Cheers ----------------------------------------- Johann van Duyn, CISSP IT Risk and Security Manager: British American Tobacco South Africa Stellenbosch, South Africa Tel. +27 (21) 8883765 Cel. +27 (82) 4588472 Fax. +27 (21) 8838692 E:mail: johann_van_duyn () bat com ----------------------------------------- "We see things as we are, not as they are." -- Leon Rosten |--------+-----------------------> | | Chad Schieken| | | <cschieken@lu| | | cent.com> | | | | | | 2001/12/10 | | | 22:16 | | | | |--------+-----------------------> >-----------------------------------------------------------------------| | | | To: Johann van Duyn <Johann_van_Duyn () bat com>, | | firewall-wizards () nfr com | | cc: (bcc: Johann van Duyn/Stellenbosch/ZA/BATCo) | | Subject: Re: [fw-wiz] Firewall Rule Migration Utilities? | >-----------------------------------------------------------------------| I would argue that you don't want a tool to perform this, for several reasons: 1. This is the perfect time to review your ruleset and determine which rules are needed and which are not. Going through a process of evaluating the need for, and owner of, each rule should provide significant value to your organization. I'm going to bet that you find things are no longer needed, should have already been taken out, and possibly a mistake. 2. No two firewall products are alike. I would argue that a Gauntlet performs it's functions in a way that is unique enough that you wouldn't want to own a FW-1 with a rulebases converted from Gauntlet. Checkpoint for instance has the set of policy properties that affect the way rules are interpreted, that would be difficult to express using the Gauntlet GUI. I have a colleague who is in the process of shoe-horning a FW-1 into a space where a Raptor was. He is trying to keep all functionality the same. You should see the mess of a NAT rulebase he is dealing with. Thanks, Chad At 07:45 AM 12/10/2001, Johann van Duyn wrote:Hi there... Is anyone here aware of any firewall rule migration utilities that could help one to migrate rules from, say, a Gauntlet firewall to a FW-1, or vice-versa? Something like that could save a person a heck of a lot of typing when changing firewalls... Thanks! ----------------------------------------- Johann van Duyn, CISSP IT Risk and Security Manager: British American Tobacco South Africa Stellenbosch, South Africa Tel. +27 (21) 8883765 Cel. +27 (82) 4588472 Fax. +27 (21) 8838692 E:mail: johann_van_duyn () bat com ----------------------------------------- "We see things as we are, not as they are." -- Leon Rosten Confidentiality Notice: The information in this document and attachments is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Internet communications are not secure and therefore British American Tobacco does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify us immediately and then delete this document. Do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor take any copies. Violation of this notice may be unlawful. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://list.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizardsConfidentiality Notice: The information in this document and attachments is confidential and may also be legally privileged. It is intended only for the use of the named recipient. Internet communications are not secure and therefore British American Tobacco does not accept legal responsibility for the contents of this message. If you are not the intended recipient,please notify us immediately and then delete this document. Do not disclose the contents of this document to any other person, nor take any copies. Violation of this notice may be unlawful. _______________________________________________ firewall-wizards mailing list firewall-wizards () nfr com http://list.nfr.com/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards
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