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Re: seperation of student and staff networks ???


From: Rick Smith at Secure Computing <rick_smith () securecomputing com>
Date: Thu, 30 Aug 2001 10:07:59 -0500

At 08:15 AM 8/29/2001, Shaun Moran wrote:

Traditional we would typically deploy some form of access control device and
deploy two seperate ethernet networks ... Lately though - I have been more and more concerned about this approac because of the lack of physical security at the schools ...

Of course, there's no perfect solution, given that you can't control the physical configuration, and physical access provides ample opportunities for misuse.

Have you thought about host-based personal firewalls -- you could set up two sets of IP addresses, one for students and one for teachers (two pools of addresses, if allocated dynamically) and program the teachers' machines and servers to ignore all packets from student machines.

If you're worried about subversion of a teacher's machine, you might want to look at the embedded, NIC-based firewalls being offered by 3Com and SCC. Even if student attackers subvert a teacher's machine, they can't penetrate the NIC and subvert the address filtering. The NIC protects its filtering functions from the host, and at worst an attack will be detected by the central admin console. It's supposed to be released as a product this fall, and it's based on one of 3Com's commodity NICs (around $100 each).

The downside is that this is a pretty new technology. It's being tested in infowar scenarios with the military, but I'm not sure if that's as hostile of an infowar environment as a public school system :->

Rick.
smith () securecomputing com          roseville, minnesota
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