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Re Token based OTP SafeWord or SecurID?
From: offset <offset () privacyx com>
Date: Fri, 22 Sep 2000 16:15:10 -0500
I am not familiar with SafeWord, but I do know a bit about SecurID SecurID uses a PIN, plus a PASSCODE that changes at small intervals (1min, 2min). If you are worried about network sniffing of PIN+PASSCODE, you can purchase the cards where you type in your PIN directly on the SecurID card and the SecurID card hashes the pin+passcode and sends this over the network. SecurID also has a "diress" (spelling?) mode. If someone is holding a gun to your head and "diress" mode is enabled, there is something the user can do when logging in with SecurID that will allow the login, but alert the security administrator that this login was accomplished under "diress". Rick Smith wrote:
--On Monday, September 18, 2000 11:30 AM -0500 kadokev () msg net wrote:I just recently noticed that unlike SecurID, SafeWord has no provision to use a PIN in combination with their key fob 'Safeword Silver 2000' token, so they are out of the running.I've been told that the SecurID PIN is essentially a reusable password, consisting of digits, that's used in conjunction with the key fob. To log in, you enter both the number on the fob and the reusable password. The advantage is that attackers must work harder -- they must first intercept a successful login to retrieve the reusable part and then steal the fob to get the one time part. Furthermore, it involves less hardware since the fob doesn't need a keypad. On the other hand, it makes the PIN weaker since it can be sniffed. Does anyone think this matters? Disclaimer: I work for Secure Computing, which builds SafeWord. I want to be sure I understand the relevant difference between the two. Rick. smith () securecomputing com roseville, minnesota _______________________________________________ Firewall-wizards mailing list Firewall-wizards () nfr net http://www.nfr.net/mailman/listinfo/firewall-wizards --------------------------------------------------------------- Link is external to the Privacyx.com System
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- Re: Token based OTP: SafeWord or SecurID? Vin McLellan (Sep 16)
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- Re: Token based OTP: SafeWord or SecurID? Carson Gaspar (Sep 19)
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- Re: Token based OTP: SafeWord or SecurID? Vin McLellan (Sep 16)
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