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Inward telnet from insecure clients (was Re: Security Related Issues)


From: Bennett Todd <bet () rahul net>
Date: Wed, 6 May 1998 04:12:26 -0700

1998-05-05-14:37:51 Jim Leo:
We have our firewall in place, and issued 'smartcard' to those
individuals [ running self-administered ("uncontrolled") win95 ] that
require access to hosts inside the 'protected' zone.

I just had a thought. In a setting like this, how about rig the daemon
to scan the client? Strobe[1] can run pretty quickly; don't let someone
log in at all until you've completed a strobe against 'em. Then let 'em
in, and commence an nmap[2] alongside to make sure there aren't any UDP
ports open. After the first time they log in, make a note, and from then
on let 'em in immediately --- but launch an nmap at the same time as you
let 'em in, and if ever they fail one disable 'em until a hand reset.

If a client isn't listening on any ports it can't be burgled over the
net. Set the company policy that logins over the internet are only
permitted from clients which themselves can't be easily burgled, which
means they can't be listening for incoming connections.

Offer assistance at securing clients up to company spec.

Combine something like this with ssh[3] and I think you could actually
have a pretty safe inbound access from the internet.

-Bennett

[1] <URL:ftp://suburbia.net/pub/strobe.tgz>
[2] <URL:http://www.dhp.com/~fyodor/nmap/>
[3] <URL:http://www.cs.hut.fi/ssh/>



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