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Re: Important Comments re: INtrusion Detection


From: "Paul D. Robertson" <proberts () clark net>
Date: Sun, 15 Feb 1998 09:50:29 -0500 (EST)

On Sun, 15 Feb 1998, Darren Reed wrote:

IP packets can be rebuilt at firewalls, doing packet filtering, but
it can be construed to be a `bad thing' on the principle that gateways
(or routers) don't reassemble fragments and just pass packets on.

I'm curious as to why this is a "bad thing"?  Reassembly prior to passing 
to the packet filtering layer gets rid of a whole class of attack.  Most 
of the time these days fragments all travel the same path relatively 
quickly, and the only major disadvantage I can see is that the gateway's 
stack buffering needs to be large, and hopefully indexed rather than 
linearly addressed for large sites, but that's more of an implementation 
issue.

I wonder how FW-1 would stack up to the sort of tests that SNI put
the various IDS systems through.

I suppose I wasn't the first to wonder this.

Paul
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