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Re: HECVAT - Vendor Refusal


From: Henry Wojteczko <hank.wojteczko () CLASSEDESIGNUSA COM>
Date: Tue, 15 Jun 2021 13:44:38 +0000

Michael:

Speaking as a vendor, I totally agree with Isaac. Yes, it was time consuming for my organization to complete the 
HECVAT. And yes, it was a team effort to complete it. But from my perspective, this is part of what a vendor should do 
to demonstrate that they are capable of delivering on what is promised.

Thanks;

Hank Wojteczko
Practice Manager – Cloud Professional Services
David Kent Consulting, Inc.
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From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> on behalf of Isaac Straley 
<isaac.straley () UTORONTO CA>
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Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 8:40 AM
To: "SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU" <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: Re: [SECURITY] HECVAT - Vendor Refusal

Obvious but just so it’s said: It is not up to the vendor what kind of assurance your program needs. It is entirely 
their choice if they want to do what you ask for or not.

Depending on the risk and our internal capacity to analyze, I’ve accepted other formats of assurance. But I take a hard 
look at suppliers who resist providing information, especially in a reusable vehicle like this. The answer to “why 
won’t they do this” is an important factor.

The HECVAT isn’t perfect but we’ve collectively really done a lot of good work to reduce the overhead on suppliers and 
it’s a good faith effort to ask for it, in my opinion.

Isaac


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Isaac Straley
Chief Information Security Officer
University of Toronto



From: The EDUCAUSE Security Community Group Listserv <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU> on behalf of "Menne, Michael 
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Date: Tuesday, June 15, 2021 at 6:28 AM
To: "SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU" <SECURITY () LISTSERV EDUCAUSE EDU>
Subject: [SECURITY] HECVAT - Vendor Refusal

EXTERNAL EMAIL:
For those that have used the HECVAT and HECVATlite, what has your response been to a vendor who refuses to fill out the 
full HECVAT and claims that HECVAT is only required for “sensitive data” (SSN, CC#, etc.)?

We have used the HECVAT lite only for situations where the data is completely public.  In all other situations, we’ve 
used the HECVAT. Most vendors take a few attempts to get the answers we are looking for, but I’ve only had one other 
that has said they won’t fill it out at all.

Thank you,

Michael Menne, CISSP
Chief Information Security Officer
IT Solutions Information Security
Minnesota State University, Mankato
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