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Re: [External] Re: [SECURITY] SIEM questions.


From: Kevin Wilcox <wilcoxkm () APPSTATE EDU>
Date: Fri, 14 May 2021 11:23:37 -0400

I'm going to tack on to what Nadim said. I may be a "pure Elastic" fan but
for most small shops, I think Graylog is the way to go. It gives you as
much storage as you can put behind it (it's elasticsearch for storage under
the hood for indexing), you can feed it with logstash so you can do all
your parsing (schema on write) and enrichment up-front, it supports parsing
at search (schema on read) and it has an excellent support community (in
addition to paid support, if you go that route).

That doesn't mean I'm not going to say, "you should also look at the
Elastic Stack" =) The biggie for me is the enrichment up-front. We get an
MFA log, we pull the user name and IP, then we add data from Active
Directory, we add data from inventory, we add GeoIP data (really just after
ASN / company info), then we store the log event with that data added. It
makes, e.g., doing a search like "give me all the MFA events for this
department that weren't from a local internet provider" really quick and
easy - it isn't having to crawl through and find all the usernames for that
department AND do GeoIP at search time, it's just filtering on data that's
already there. "show me when someone from x departments has a login event
from a *new* Internet provider" -- super simple, it's just looking for a
new value to appear in the geoip ASN field. You do need to know your log
data for it to be effective...

kmw

On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 7:44 PM Nadim El-Khoury <
0000024d485fe2c4-dmarc-request () listserv educause edu> wrote:

Hi Jonathan,

We use Graylog here at Springfield College. We are using the open-source
version, and we are so far happy with it.
We started using it a couple of months ago, and so far, we indexed around
103+ GB of data from our Palo Alto firewalls alone. We did not even count
the data from the ASA VPN devices and other systems.
As a small college with limited funds and resources, we would not be able
to afford the other products.

Best,

Nadim El-Khoury
Director of Networks, Systems, Infrastructure, and Information Security
Officer
Springfield College
263 Alden Street
Springfield, MA 01109
nel-khoury () springfield edu


On Thu, May 13, 2021 at 4:15 PM Francisco Chavez <fac3 () stmarys-ca edu>
wrote:

Hi Kimmitt,

Here at Saint Mary’s we use AlienVault. Like Rich mentioned, the company
has had a few bad years but the product and support is much better now. We
currently use AlienVault USM Anywhere which is hosted on AWS.

Please feel free to reach out directly if you have any questions!

Sincerely,
Francisco Chavez


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Saint Mary's College of California

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On May 13, 2021, at 11:32 AM, Kimmitt, Jonathan <
jonathan-kimmitt () UTULSA EDU> wrote:

Reposting from the CIO group email for my CIO:

Happy Thursday,

Smaller institutions with pandemic-minded budgets, do you have a SIEM
you’re using that is quality, provides insightful reporting and is either
easy to manage OR managed externally? That you would recommend? (I’ll take
warnings too!)

We’re looking to make a change within the next 12-18 months and I could
use honest feedback on solutions, experience, cost, dedicated headcount
support. Can email me directly:

Thanks much,


-Jonathan



~
Jonathan Kimmitt
CISSP, FIP, CDPSE, CIPP/E, CIPM, CIPT,
OTCP,GLEG, GPEN, GSNA, PCIP, CEH
Chief Information Security Officer
Information Technology
The University of Tulsa
918.631.2743


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