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Re: DingTalk software concerns?


From: Ramon Rentas <rentas () MACALESTER EDU>
Date: Thu, 11 Feb 2021 10:04:59 -0600

I never heard of that app until now, so I did some google searches and
found lots of articles warning about the app's weak security that would
allow the Chinese Government to spy in the app's users.  Below is one of
such articles.

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/10/14/china-xi-jinping-ideology-app-has-backdoor-that-could-let-beijing-snoop-on-users-report.html

Good luck,

Ramón
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2021 at 8:09 AM Bole, Jim A <jbole () albany edu> wrote:

We have a faculty group planning to teach students at a Chinese
university. The university, as well as a lot of folks in China, use
DingTalk.



Our faculty wants to install it to conduct classes, much in the same
manner as they use Zoom.



Anyone have any experience with this?



I do have some privacy concerns for the faculty members using the
software. It’s entirely possible that their activities would be tracked by
someone in China. And that tracking could potentially include things like
our network ranges, etc.



But it looks like the software itself isn’t malicious. The mobile app has
been vetted by Apple and Google.



I’ve reviewed their privacy page:
https://page.dingtalk.com/wow/dingtalk/act/privacy-en-lite?



I’ve reviewed their security whitepaper (attached). First time I’d heard
of ChaCha20 encryption.



While it does have some interesting language, it covers most of the basics.



It’s an interesting use case and I’d appreciate any feedback.



Jim Bole

Chief Information Security Officer

Information Technology Services

University at Albany





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